Worrisome marker features - what do you think?

[SummaryJudgement]

I played against the Jax Warriors (back in the day), when they had RTs before they were on the market. I got a first hand taste of what an RT could on the field AFTER it was chronoed. Ouch...................

[FinchMan]

It was an awesome marker, capable of nearly 40BPS.

That just about gives it away.

I guess it could be a problem, but only if the owner of said awesome marker chooses to abuse it and nobody else is smart enough to tell.

Perhaps they should ban this marker from tournaments just to be safe.

[Lohman446]

I played against the Jax Warriors (back in the day), when they had RTs before they were on the market. I got a first hand taste of what an RT could on the field AFTER it was chronoed. Ouch...................

Oh, you mean before the RT effect on velocity and trigger were public knowledge?

[dahoeb]

I played against the Jax Warriors (back in the day), when they had RTs before they were on the market. I got a first hand taste of what an RT could on the field AFTER it was chronoed. Ouch...................

let me play devils advocate for a moment.....
assuming they chronoed at 270fps, upon getting hit, would you be able to say, "wow, they were definately shooting 283fps!" maybe they just hit you in a more painful than normal spot? maybe just close range on sensitive area? theres a lot of factors to consider...

i'm not really trying to dispute your claim that those markers might've been hot, but i've just never seen or heard anyone complain after getting shot with a mag, complaining that the valve was shooting hot.

my point (as it relates to the thread in general) is that when almost ANY paintball gun starts shooting fast, the velocity will bounce around some and you'll have a good chance of getting hit with a hot paintball. i don't think its "OK" that the rt velocity will increase over rapid long strings, so please don't get the wrong idea and i'm not trying to justify it happening really, just laying out another point of view.

also, just out of curiosity lohman, how fast did the marker have to shoot before the velocity increase?

[ahellers]

well its my understanding that a paintball when fired slows considerably after being fired, so i would have to wonder how fast a paintball is generaly going when it hits you, i mean to get hit at 300 fps you would have to put your face right in front of the barral. so if a gun does happen to be shooting hot i dont belive you would be able to tell when it hit you.
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[Jaan]

I recently had the chance to test one of the most amazing pieces of machinery available to paintball players. It was an awesome marker, capable of nearly 40BPS ...
What do you think AO?

Still too slow. That's only 1 ball every 7 feet at 280 fps. You need to bump it up a bit so there are at least 2 balls at a time in a 12" barrel because the front ball will create a negative air space and suck the ball behind it out thereby cancelling the effect of turbulence in front of the ball and giving you better accuracy.

[AGD]

Oh, you mean before the RT effect on velocity and trigger were public knowledge?

In fact it was always public knowledge (thats why SP tried to have it banned when the Shocker was outlawed). We quoted a chrono procedure from day one where you hold the trigger back, release and fire quickly to see the effect of velocity climb and take that into account. Runaway was never allowed in tournaments so velocity climb at those rates was not a factor.

AGD

[Lenny]

Wait... what's the point of this thread?

Probably to "teach us" something...

[Head knight of Ni]

Wait... what's the point of this thread?

Probably to "teach us" something...

It was to try to show that 'Mag owners are just as blindly biased as anyone else.

[ahellers]

well it didnt seem to me that it took to long to catch on. in fact i only see one post that didnt get it.
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[AGDRetro]

All I have "learned" from this is that Lohman446 is a retard, but that was a decision I'd already come to a while back after reading, well any one of his posts really...

[Head knight of Ni]

All I have "learned" from this is that Lohman446 is a retard, but that was a decision I'd already come to a while back after reading, well any one of his posts really...

Lohman is one of the better posters on this forum.



/Lohman not Yakitori...

[Indignant]

All I have "learned" from this is that Lohman446 is a retard, but that was a decision I'd already come to a while back after reading, well any one of his posts really...

Because YOU'RE a really productive poster...

[gibby]

Okay...so I haven't been keep up with loader technology. But what loader can achieve that 40bps limit? Qloader? And if there isn't one, why bring it up anyway if it's not currently possible with today's loaders?

[lather]

All I have "learned" from this is that Lohman446 is a retard, but that was a decision I'd already come to a while back after reading, well any one of his posts really...

ehh not worth the time......