Worrisome marker features - what do you think?

[tribalman]

Unfortunately, there is. The first is to have greater range. This is a huge benefit off the break. The second is to have a faster ball that is MUCH harder to dodge.

to all players who use the dwell cheat or have an easy way to adjust your volocity(not allen keys, i mean thumb screws or other means) i have one question, are you willing to risk my physical well being just so you can "win at all costs". thank you, i really appreciate that.

i have personally had this happen to me. it was at a big game. i was 2 field widths away from the opposing teams base. it was fairly open field, there were bunkers, but they were setup the wrong way(typically the field runs N-S, but cause it was a big game, field boundries were taken out so the fields went E-W)and i was out of range, so i walked up. i knew they were there, i knew they saw me walk up cause i heard them start shooting as soon i was about 1 1/2 field widths away. i then stopped, and watched shots bounce off me with no force at all. i stood there, and danced. after a while they realized no shots were hitting, and the shots slowed. i kept dancing. now i never took my eyes off of the opposing players. all of a sudden a few shots went wizzing past my head as if i was in a speed ball field and we were 30 feet apart. at that point a ducked into a bunker. how could this have happened? a person ran up. nope. from another side? nope, i watched the shot come from straight ahead.

now what could have happened if this moron forgot to turn his volocity back down when he is in closer combat with either myself or other players?

i think markers need to not only have a bps lock, not just regulations, but a lock. the board won't allow the player to shoot faster. and also have volocity locks. it should still allow for some adjustment, but not nearly as much as now. this game is way to unsafe and it is really making me think about quitting, which is really sad to me cause i love to play the game.

there is a 300 fps limit for a reason! don't go above it for any reason. you want better range? aim the gun up a bit more! shots not breaking? get closer! please stop risking physical harm of others just cause you want to think you are better!

[SR_matt]

while i like the idea of FPS locks it would be imposiable for them to work correctly. look at a spyder, there is not way to prevent adjusting the velecioty there. cockers, throw a harder spring in. every mechanical gun will not allow for it and i cant think of an electro pneumatic that the system couldnt be jumped around pretty easily
-matt

[teufelhunden]

An RT/X-Valve or any variant thereof can go full auto. However, it's a malfunction not a feature, unlike the various shooting modes on e-guns. Nor can you 'dial-a-bps' accurately as with an e-gun. Unless you have spare on/off pins or an ajustable tank, you can't turn bouncing on or off. Even if you did have the pins and an adjustable tank, it's a PITA.

RT bounce has unfortunately been publicized so much (Zak's videos being a big part) that kids want to 'fix' their properly functioning guns to bounce. In other words, cheat.

I can't really think of that many other products that have a "malfunction" that is so easy to reproduce under normal use. I'm sure some car, somewhere has a problem with its cruise control software, but I've never heard of "ZOMG IF YOU HOLD THE ACCELERATOR IN JUST THE RIGHT PLACE YOU GO 150 MPH"

Nor have I ever heard of a "malfunction" being used in product advertising.

[REDRT]

I can't really think of that many other products that have a "malfunction" that is so easy to reproduce under normal use. I'm sure some car, somewhere has a problem with its cruise control software, but I've never heard of "ZOMG IF YOU HOLD THE ACCELERATOR IN JUST THE RIGHT PLACE YOU GO 150 MPH"

Nor have I ever heard of a "malfunction" being used in product advertising.

I wouldn't consider it to be a malfunction. One tigger pull is a pull and release. RTs push back on the release. Sweat spoting is nothing more than a shorter pull and release. It is still there, but it is short. Because the valve recharges so fast it is able to keep up in rapid bursts seemingly like some full auto, ranaway, malfuction as its been improperly called. It's more like a mecanically enhansed semi auto. You let go of the trigger on an RT is stops firing. I've picked up many electros set to continue to fire after you've stopped shooting with no fingures on the trigger due to additional shots added per the ramping features! An RT will never do that ever. Also If one has never witnessed a true ranaway mag you just don't know. Rts are slow in compairison to a true runaway.

[SR_matt]

^^^ put an RT onoff in ur mag with an oring up in the hole and your mag will run away and cant even shoot 2 balls out (i couldnt get the mag to only shoot 1 shot, it did at least 3 )
-matt

[REDRT]

^^^ put an RT onoff in ur mag with an oring up in the hole and your mag will run away and cant even shoot 2 balls out (i couldnt get the mag to only shoot 1 shot, it did at least 3 )
-matt

Hahh? You make no sence in your writings to me.

[SR_matt]

i installed my RT on off incorrectly (i put an oring sitting ontop of the onoff in the valve) it basicaly went totaly FA
-matt

[RoadDawg]

i installed my RT on off incorrectly (i put an oring sitting ontop of the onoff in the valve) it basicaly went totaly FA
-matt

Keyword is bolded.

AGD advertises that the valve can reach __ bps without drop off. It doesn't say it will shoot that fast every time under normal use. It's claiming the recharge rate is better then any other valve out there. Is that really advertising that it is shooting at full auto? Now the malfunction is just that. It doesn't happen all the time, you have to look for it. Every player I've met with a mag can't afford to take the time to "sweet spot" it on the field. It takes them away from the game and people are putting so much paint on them from the ramping software that they don't have time to find it anyway. Those with adjustable tanks who put the input over 1000 can reproduce it easier but they won't make it past chrono if the ref knows how to test the RT.

The velocity spikes are never that bad if you've chrono'ed properly and have a decent tank on gun. AGD even goes over how to properly chrono your RT. This is not different then any other marker on the field. I've seen Spyders jump 15+/- consistantly, same with any "rental" marker.

tribal- People won't care about other players safety until you do get hurt. Otherwise they just want to win and will do what it takes to do so, especially if it's a tourny. Until tournies start punishing players who continue to play unsafe it will continue. Hell I've had it done to me in practices by a spoiled little "bear".

[mobsterboy]

I can't really think of that many other products that have a "malfunction" that is so easy to reproduce under normal use. I'm sure some car, somewhere has a problem with its cruise control software, but I've never heard of "ZOMG IF YOU HOLD THE ACCELERATOR IN JUST THE RIGHT PLACE YOU GO 150 MPH"

Nor have I ever heard of a "malfunction" being used in product advertising.

guess you dont look into video games or computer software much, do you?

[teufelhunden]

guess you dont look into video games or computer software much, do you?

Plenty. However, most software bugs aren't of the "press the J key and I get an error" unless its your own system that's fragged. They're more of the "In a little shop in Ironforge if I look at the wall just right and spin as fast as I can the graphics card crashes" or "In dust2 when I climb on top of the crates at bombsite A I can AWP the terrorist spawn"

Not "I hold my finger in the right place and I get a simulated F/A effect!"