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  • Piranti
    Cold Blooded Lizard
    • Jun 2006
    • 486

    #241
    I for one deplore "Manjina's" (sp...Majinebz) attitude here towards one who if I recall correctly was once an Engineer for AGD. Manike comes here posts about a marker he is helping to develop which is reminiscient of an E-Mag in looks, however modernized it is. As he even stated; which he shouldn't have to, that he is unable to release all the information about the marker and its operation. Even Nicad from Deadlywind has not released all of the inner workings of his 'Aedes' marker, and you damn well sure don't see Bob Long releasing the detailed information you are seeking about his new marker the 'Onyx' - formerly known as 'The Mummy 2'.

    Manike did US the Ao community a favor by showing us a marker that he thought some of us would like due to its overall similarities to an Emag. He probably also expected a more mature and positive attitude from our community. Personally I am ashamed at some of the responses and posts by some members of AO recently. Sadly it is reminding me of the weak rambling of the PBN kiddies. That type of behaviour does not belong here nor; I suspect, do most of the AO community want that. We take pride in that we are different and more mature on average than some of the other PB communities.

    What did most of our parents drill into our heads growing up? 'If you don't have anything nice to say don't say anything at all'.

    Either way, Thank you Manike for showing us and telling us what you can about this marker. I hope to see it and possibly dry fire it this weekend at the Commanders Cup in OC.

    EDIT- Bunny5 posted information and pic's, Manike comes in and tells us a tad more than bunny5's post.
    Last edited by Piranti; 10-19-2006, 07:02 PM.

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    • warbeak2099
      That is my foot!
      • Jan 2004
      • 4447

      #242
      Here here Piranti! Agreed. A general thank you to Manike is in order!

      THANK YOU MANIKE!
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      • geekwarrior
        MIA
        • Oct 2005
        • 2581

        #243
        held and shot this today. so awsome. My friend had his Angel 1 along, and the mini is noticably smaller and lighter. Shot a hopper of reballs through it, no kick, super smooth. I am getting one! Might have to hold out for the silver, it is hawt!!! Super small and tight!

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        • warbeak2099
          That is my foot!
          • Jan 2004
          • 4447

          #244
          Originally posted by geekwarrior
          held and shot this today. so awsome. My friend had his Angel 1 along, and the mini is noticably smaller and lighter. Shot a hopper of reballs through it, no kick, super smooth. I am getting one! Might have to hold out for the silver, it is hawt!!! Super small and tight!
          SWEET!
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          • dsrkd
            Registered User
            • Mar 2003
            • 994

            #245
            I was able to shoot one today too! 1st it is extremely light. It 'feels' comfortable in the hands with taper in the upper portion of the battery pack. The samples I handled all had nice finish work. Reasonably quiet, fast and almost no kick. Halls sensor type trigger. Easy on/off, programs thru the board and the on/off button (ala nerve board programming kind of). You open up the battery pack to access the board. I was told 'limited editions' will be periodically offered (like the silver one geekwarrior refers to). The blue version will be very tempting for me.
            All in all I liked it.

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            • d4m4don3
              does anyone read my posts?
              • Sep 2005
              • 1228

              #246
              Add to the fact that they ran another circuit board from the foregrip to the eyes, and solenoid. Completely modular so that breakdown and reassembly is a lot simpler. Plus one of the reps mentioned firing 1600 shots.

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              • SpecialBlend2786
                Registered User
                • Jun 2003
                • 4023

                #247
                Piranti is my favorite 2k6'er as of now.

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                • bunny5
                  lurking
                  • Jan 2005
                  • 1099

                  #248

                  Update: 10/22/06


                  Video on page 1.

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                  • Piranti
                    Cold Blooded Lizard
                    • Jun 2006
                    • 486

                    #249
                    Egads this is a very nice marker. Everyone saying this marker is light and small just cannot do it justice.

                    Went to the Commanders Cup this saturday and got to fire it with reballs. The marker itself is lighter than most tanks and hoppers filled with paint. It is surprisingly well balanced with either a peanut or 68/45 on it with a load of paint in a Halo B. It does not require a drop forward at all, if you somehow managed to put one on the gun would be too close to your face. Well at least with how I hold my marker and shoot them. They were getting probably like 1800 - 2k shots from a 68/45 using reballs chronoed low enough to use them 240-250ish. The trigger pull is very nice with adjustable magnetic return using a Hall Effect sensor like our beloved E-Mags. Firing the marker was enjoyable in trigger feel response and recoil. There was little to no recoil, least that I noticed.

                    For those that dont like the front grip, bah, Most of us don't fully circle our hands around our front foregrips anyways, more like cup them and with how the front grip is it is very comfortable to hold and move the marker around.

                    One of my friends who plays almost exclusively with a pump, loved it and wants to get one now as well.

                    Top points for this marker:

                    1. Light - with the barrel, battery, reg(in the frame), and On/off ASA it is incredibally light.
                    2. Size - Single tube design, and small but not too small to make it uncomfortable.
                    3. Air Efficiency - Very Efficient marker on air consumption.
                    4. Price - for under 500 this marker is phenomonal.
                    5. Child Proof - Maintenance and care for this marker is nearly childproof. Only one hose in the gun, no external lines at all to worry about.
                    6. Innovation - Probably the best feature of the marker, I really tip my hats off to these guys they have come up with some rather ingenious and NEW things on how to make a marker go. Did i mention the NEW innovations in this marker with several patents that SP should not be able to touch ?


                    Also looked at the Bob Long Onyx. Although it is a very nice marker it comes with a hefty pricetag and is probably twice the weight, Bang for Buck Mini beats it hands down.


                    If anyone gets a chance to take a look at these markers do it you wont be dissapointed.

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                    • Mango
                      i cant wait to blog this
                      • Feb 2002
                      • 4557

                      #250
                      Originally posted by Majinebz
                      Heck, I was just a potential customer!! Again, I say again.....
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                      This douchenozzle can go






                      On topic:
                      Nice one Simon! I'll be picking one of these up to add to the collection.

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                      • damageINC
                        Registered User
                        • Jul 2006
                        • 11

                        #251
                        When asked about upgrades, one of the guys at the booth mentioned something about an alternate reg that's seated a bit forward of the rear gripframe (essentially simulating the tank position you'd get from a drop forward). Also mentioned the standard color kits like you see on egos and such for those that like to accessorize. I'm torn now.....I was orignally planning on getting a nice mech mag used from here......but is it worth it or should I just pony up the $450 for the mini? The one thing mags have going for them is years of paint put through them so you pretty much know they're reliable......sigh. Decisions, decisions. The mini is definitely light, though...wow.

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                        • Chronobreak
                          Rec Poster
                          • Mar 2003
                          • 5055

                          #252
                          well from what i hear it should be nice

                          still kinda iffy about the modifications/setups allowed with it though as far as tanks go...since that doesnt seem to have been elaborated on

                          im sure its as efficent as most guns, better than most, but not the best and nothing outrageous.

                          can i fit a karta body over one?

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                          • Marroonblooded
                            WakeBoard PB ExtremeSports
                            • Sep 2006
                            • 54

                            #253
                            I want this gun...

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                            • manike
                              INCEPTIONDESIGNS.COM

                              • Jan 2001
                              • 3820

                              #254
                              Was AWESOME to see so many of you over the weekend. Thanks to everyone that came up to shoot the gun, and that took time to chat with me. You guys make events like this.

                              Piranti? Are you the guy who i was talking to with his friend about how much fun pump play can be? The guy who said he 'shoots every one out' while you friend shoots about half a hopper.

                              Chronobreak, was cool to put a name to a face.

                              :)

                              Very cool weekend. The response to the gun blew me away. It was better than we could dare to hope for. The most suprising thing was to tell everyone about the gun then watch their jaws drop open when we told them the price!
                              Inception Designs - My new company where Innovation is the Inspiration

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                              • Piranti
                                Cold Blooded Lizard
                                • Jun 2006
                                • 486

                                #255
                                Yes I beleive that was me and D4m4d0n4, you were talking to about the pump play. Was definately great to have you guys there to show off your work. Can definately see the pride and hopes you have for this marker. Course the price beats all. If your manufaturing and development costs are low enough to warrant the price, you will most likely get the following you desire. Look at the Ion, yes alot of people bash the marker, but for the price its real hard to beat. Most problems with most markers is user error, and from what you guys have said about yours it should be even more child proof than most other markers. Plus it will fit right into a nice niche that is probably undersaturated, the true mid priced tourney marker. Bang for buck the Mini should beat all others for price vs. performance vs. value.

                                If the Mini uses Dow 33 might I reccomend dispensing KC Trouble Free the Clear formula with it since can probably drop a couple of drops in the asa dry fire to lube well enough or better without having to dissasemble =), for regular maintenance. The clear formula is supposed to replace grease, for grease lubricated markers. I have been using it in mine and love the stuff. Just a thought

                                p.s. psst hey can I get a free or discounted Mini .... JK.........
                                Last edited by Piranti; 10-23-2006, 01:29 PM.

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