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  • hitech
    Not a shedder of vortices
    • Nov 2001
    • 4775

    #226
    How do you use a non-screw in tank?


    Hey Hitech your starting to sound like me! - AGD
    Hitech is the man.... :eek: - Blennidae
    The only Hitech Lubricant

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    • manike
      INCEPTIONDESIGNS.COM

      • Jan 2001
      • 3820

      #227
      The video was only really intended to show that it wasn't vapor ware and to give an idea of scale.

      I was shooting it in Semi, and in NXL mode (capped at 15bps). This video wasn't to show speed.

      The new arms race is not about speed. It's about size, weight, ease of maintenance, consistency etc.

      It's relatively easy to make a fast gun, it's not as easy to make a small, light, consistent gun...

      Yes you can adjust the dwell, and eye delay. It has a large volume chamber for the gas in the grip.

      Hitech, right now, you don't. Sorry.
      Inception Designs - My new company where Innovation is the Inspiration

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      • punkncat
        One foot less
        • Feb 2003
        • 5841

        #228
        Originally posted by manike

        The new arms race is not about speed. It's about size, weight, ease of maintenance, consistency etc.

        It's relatively easy to make a fast gun, it's not as easy to make a small, light, consistent gun...
        I find it sortof funny. I realize that this is really the only way that marker manufacturers can go considering the speed threshold is well beyond the ball and loaders ability to match.
        I am hoping that with these new light and small markers someone is going to catch up with loader and tank technology. In other words new markers are so small and light, but you still have to use this heavy tank and hopper on it throwing off the weight and feel. Some light sexy piece of aluminum stuck off inbeween a couple of heavy bubbles.....

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        • PumpPlayer
          TrojanMan on other boards
          • Feb 2005
          • 333

          #229
          I wish to see a decent, reliable 50 or 100-round hopper.


          But then, I can wish in one hand and...
          Before: "You're playing with WHAT?"
          After: "Crap! It's that guy with the pump!"

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          • Toll
            Registered User
            • Jun 2005
            • 758

            #230
            If there was a safe way to have a 13/9000 tank, that'd be neat....1000's of shots, weigh very little...destroy your ribcage and fling your arm a kilometer away...sweet.

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            • REDRT
              Mags, Y use anything else
              • Apr 2004
              • 1854

              #231
              Kinda not

              My $.02

              Not AGD and not an Emag. Misleading title

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              • Majinebz
                Registered User
                • Sep 2004
                • 295

                #232
                Yeah, well I assumed it was capped but needed a confirmation.
                Think about this though. Not that your little toy applies to this. But what if the gun is only capable of 15 because "its not about speed anymore" Cough cough horse *****. And all of the rules for paintball change to 20bps cap. So now you have a slow marker, cause the company who designed and manufactured the thing decided speed was not an issue anymore.

                As for this race of arms BS.

                You talked all about guns beign lighter, better consistency yap yap yap.... (You forgot the ergonomics, air effciency, reliability of the product and its components. Theres alot more then even that)

                Yet the only thing you answered was the board questions. And enlarged air chamber in the grip.

                Where are the other questions I wanted to know, like effieciency?? How many shots on a 68ci 4500psi? How about a 45ci 5000psi??

                Whats the Regulator reliability?? Isn't the on/off the regulator also? So how reliable is it?? Ohh so if it fails, instead of screwing on a backup regulator that all other markers have, we are screwed, cause the marker is like HP computers and all parts are proprietary!!!

                Can't use your flatline on it... that sucks.

                how about what type of ball detent also??

                Most of the questions I asked related to the BS you just yapped about?? Infact since I'am on that subject, Wheres that info??

                What kind of consistency does it get?? What is it? You guys should have some numbers from testing?? "Outstanding velocity consistency" that does not answer *****!!

                hell, you didn't answer much chump. Are you a rep for the product?? Cause I would rather drop an extra 500 bucks to DYE for a marker then deal with a smart a$$.

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                • kruger
                  KRUGER GRIPS

                  • Jun 2004
                  • 1915

                  #233
                  wow. This marker is not even on the market yet. I dont think that Manike CAN give all the information out just yet. And, I dont think that he is trying to just drum up Hype for it either. And, it would be prudent to wait and see what some of the reviews of this thing say, just to get some real world feedback on actual usage. Chill down a bit dude.
                  WOW, sigs. Havent seen these in a while here on AO.

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                  • Majinebz
                    Registered User
                    • Sep 2004
                    • 295

                    #234
                    Well, for everything he could not answer he could have just stated that the information is not available at this time. Instead he wanted to give me a lecture about what the paintball market industry is about.... which was all BS anyway.

                    I would like to know alot of those questions without getting a BS or hype answer. I assume everyone else here would also. Does anybody disagree with that statement? Reliable information about a product that you may spend your money on??

                    Not vague misleading statements like "Outstanding velocity consistency" ALOT of marker companies claim this. Or "MAYBE the lightest, tightest marker avaialable." Halfblocks anyone??

                    Manike are you even affiliated with Invert?? If so, the information asked about should not be very hard to obtain right?. Especially if its only 2 months to its debut.

                    If not, WTF are you the one who chose to answer my questions?

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                    • warbeak2099
                      That is my foot!
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 4447

                      #235
                      Majinebz, I'm sure by being a total douchebag you're going to get a lot out of him.

                      If you would read this thread and the one on pbn, the velocity has been reported to be around +5/-5 over the chrony before the regs are properly tuned / broken in. Manike has stated a bunch of times that he will not be releasing exact numbers for efficiency yet. Freaking shut the hell up about it already you're acting like a toddler with a temper tantrum. He has made statements saying it is reliable as well. I can't even begin to deal with the rest of the crap you posted. Look who's calling who a chump. He isn't going to give out all this info before NPS says it's ok. So sit down and wait like the rest of us. What makes you so special that he should answer to you? God get off your high horse, you're full of yourself and it's just sickening.

                      Oh and nice job avoiding the swear filter. I hope you enjoy ur temp ban. Reported.
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                      • CaptainNeeda
                        Questing for black sky
                        • May 2005
                        • 230

                        #236
                        Flame on:



                        Flame off:

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                        • Majinebz
                          Registered User
                          • Sep 2004
                          • 295

                          #237
                          hahahah thanks, +5 - 5.... ohh and yes, I'am special. thank you!

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                          • manike
                            INCEPTIONDESIGNS.COM

                            • Jan 2001
                            • 3820

                            #238
                            Originally posted by Majinebz
                            Yeah, well I assumed it was capped but needed a confirmation.
                            Think about this though. Not that your little toy applies to this. But what if the gun is only capable of 15 because "its not about speed anymore" Cough cough horse *****. And all of the rules for paintball change to 20bps cap. So now you have a slow marker, cause the company who designed and manufactured the thing decided speed was not an issue anymore.

                            As for this race of arms BS.

                            You talked all about guns beign lighter, better consistency yap yap yap.... (You forgot the ergonomics, air effciency, reliability of the product and its components. Theres alot more then even that)

                            Yet the only thing you answered was the board questions. And enlarged air chamber in the grip.

                            Where are the other questions I wanted to know, like effieciency?? How many shots on a 68ci 4500psi? How about a 45ci 5000psi??

                            Whats the Regulator reliability?? Isn't the on/off the regulator also? So how reliable is it?? Ohh so if it fails, instead of screwing on a backup regulator that all other markers have, we are screwed, cause the marker is like HP computers and all parts are proprietary!!!

                            Can't use your flatline on it... that sucks.

                            how about what type of ball detent also??

                            Most of the questions I asked related to the BS you just yapped about?? Infact since I'am on that subject, Wheres that info??

                            What kind of consistency does it get?? What is it? You guys should have some numbers from testing?? "Outstanding velocity consistency" that does not answer *****!!

                            hell, you didn't answer much chump. Are you a rep for the product?? Cause I would rather drop an extra 500 bucks to DYE for a marker then deal with a smart a$$.
                            I'm sorry, but I won't answer any questions from you presented with such an attitude as in your last two posts. There is a LOT of information that we are deliberately holding back at this point. I think I know a little more about the paintball market and what is happening with it right now than most.

                            Yes, I am the guy in the video. I'm one of the engineers that has worked on this project. I know everything there is to know about this gun, but I'm only allowed to release so much information at this point. Sorry.

                            If you're attitude was the prevalent one here I would be less and less likely to release information here or to reply here. And people wonder where the 'Old AO' went. People like you ruined it.

                            To those that are waiting patiently and have manners. Much <3!
                            Inception Designs - My new company where Innovation is the Inspiration

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                            • Majinebz
                              Registered User
                              • Sep 2004
                              • 295

                              #239
                              Heck, I was just a potential customer!! Again, I say again, You could have stated the information is not yet available. I woulda shut my trap. But Instead you gave me a speach about the marker arms race. Which I took as you showing an attitude towards me. Cause I know there are plenty of people who would disagree with your statement regardless what you think you know. Because that is all personal opinion.

                              And whats up with this??? "If you're attitude was the prevalent one here I would be less and less likely to release information here or to reply here. And people wonder where the 'Old AO' went. People like you ruined it." WTF do you know?? I barely ever post here unless its something of intrest. I wont clutter this thread anymore. Ohh God, I dont even wanna imagine what your customer support is gonna be like!!! YIKES!!!

                              Dude, you just lost a customer. I'll drop that extra 500 bucks to Dye, who atleast will answer questions with thought to the customer in mind. Not boost their own egos!

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                              • 11 Bravo
                                Predatored Karta Mag
                                • May 2005
                                • 1247

                                #240
                                Majinabez is usually an ok guy. With the dealings I had with him anyways. It suprised me to see his attitude. He must have sat on a tack or something.

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