How to make a non partial Governing body in paintball today

[Chronobreak]

long title i know, but i couldnt reword it any better

are they days and dreams of an overall governing and enforcing body or group dead in paintball these days?

who would the leaders be, industry people, players, others ?

how would they enforce decisions?

do players really want this?

does big industry in paintball have enough $ to influcen discisions regardless of if they are beneficial to the sport?



i know this topic has been visited upon in the past but i was curious if anyones viewpoints have changed. and im pretty bored.

[JRingold]

Unless there is money in it, I can't see it happening.

[neppo1345]

Before any of that can happen, paintball needs to show it has the potential to make money for non-paintball oriented companies.

Until there is money to be made outside of paintball, there will be no non-partial governing body; only players and paintball companies.

We don't need players and paintball companies calling the shots, we need businessmen.

You won't see them until they realize they can make some scratch.

[p8ntball72]

Non-partial would have to exclude all industry ties,

I think the major paintball insurance agencies should form a governing body.
Then dictate enforceable standards that the industry would have to comply to.

[Chronobreak]

like it has been said the company or group would need $, and the only people making $ are the biz's that only want regulations and rules taht benefit them and the sales of their products.

IE if a true semi only rule was in effect how many boards would be just about utterly useless, and why need an aftermarket board?

the idea is to get a governing entitiy in palce BEFORE insurance or other entities are forced to step in.

on a sidenot how many insurance companies allow rof other than true semi?(or know that their fields allow them), my guess is very....VERY....few

[neppo1345]

Look at NASCAR.

They showed they had earnings potential, and were bought up by Time Warner.

They institute their own guidelines, allowable displacement, weight, size.

When they realized it was getting dangerous, the instituted restrictor plates and new restraint systems.

Can someone tell me what 'sport' has the fastest growing fanbase?

I'll give you a clue: It's not womens Curling.



/God I hate NASCAR

[grEnAlEins]

why need an aftermarket board?

Better trigger/eye logic, cool blinky lighs, better debounce settings, cool blinky lights, battery efficientcy, cool blinky lights, FSDO/ABS settings, cool blinky lights. I like blinky lights

Neppo, how do you feel about women's curling?

[Chronobreak]

yeah i gues your right, those thigns are important, but perhaps they can only get soo good..ya know?

as far as boards at this point modes/mode types seem to be the selling point and have been for some time.

[grEnAlEins]

yeah i gues your right, those thigns are important, but perhaps they can only get soo good..ya know?

as far as boards at this point modes/mode types seem to be the selling point and have been for some time.

I guess they are for most of the people who buy them. Personally I don't really use modes at all, except I did use OMFG mode over the chrono last time before I played, just to see the jaws drop... I switched back to semi for actual play though.

[SCpoloRicker]

Bring in the United Nations?

[robnix]

Until the major paintball companies see that there's more money to be made by working together on this than there is by trying to go it alone and be king of the hill, no. Then again paintball itself is a big game of king of the hill.

The recent Smart Parts Paintball Championship on ESPN is a great example. I thought the match format was great, but the production values and single sponsor whoring was just awful. Thank god for fast forward on the Tivo.

The difference between Paintball and NASCAR, is that NASCAR sets a standard for it's races, that the manufacturers and sponsors to bring their products to, Paintball allows the sponsors and manufacturers to set the standard that the games are based on.

In a nutshell, you have to believe that the standards of the game set the bar for any future you may have as a sport.

I hope this made sense. I'm tired.

[mobsterboy]

who says we need a non partial governing body? Just make all the tourneys all mechanical, non trigger-assist guns.(IE: TRUE semi) If you think your so good, what difference is the gun or the ramping gonna do to your "ubermad skills"? No bounce, no sweet spotting, no electronics or faulty boards to blame a bad day of play on, just true semi and your fingers(assuming most of you still know how to use them after this crutch with a label of ramping came out).

[Beemer]

Well its all about the politics in the Game.

First off ask yourself this. WHY after twenty years DONT we have a real governing body?
Why did the IPPA really disband or fail?

To funny even dodge ball and RC boating and others have governing bodies but not PB.

[Chronobreak]

who says we need a non partial governing body? Just make all the tourneys all mechanical, non trigger-assist guns.(IE: TRUE semi) If you think your so good, what difference is the gun or the ramping gonna do to your "ubermad skills"? No bounce, no sweet spotting, no electronics or faulty boards to blame a bad day of play on, just true semi and your fingers(assuming most of you still know how to use them after this crutch with a label of ramping came out).

well if i recall theyr were at one point standards on a legal trigger pull with a cap of around 13, a minimum trigger travel distance, trigger weight, etc etc...

i dont recall those standards or who suggested them(astm?) but i do know they were never aheard to.

heck my bushy board was even semi cheating then with its 13.6 board

Well its all about the politics in the Game.

First off ask yourself this. WHY after twenty years DONT we have a real governing body?
Why did the IPPA really disband or fail?

To funny even dodge ball and RC boating and others have governing bodies but not PB.

thats why i started this thread to get a good answer.

a new league using and enforcing TRUE semi(Not necesarily mech) but TRUE semi, as in no debounce modes or fancy shot buffering with a limit of 13-15 it would bea good start.

also ENFORCING the rules is a good start with harsh penalties.

[kevdupuis]

also ENFORCING the rules is a good start with harsh penalties.

Starting with wallet. Just look at other sports and the monitary penalties they hand out. After getting hit with fines, individuals, teams and companies would be more inclined to try and follow the rules although you'll still get some who keep pushing, only it'd be more expensive for them to push.