Ramping...

[FromTheBack]

Mobsterboy: In the context of what I was trying to pass on, you definitly missed it. The point that I was trying to make was "change". Things will always change, they always will. Humans naturaly oppose change, as you have proven in your post. Also, I am speaking from a woodsball point of view. I dont allow speedball at my field. Down own any Sup'Air bunkers. Do you know why? Because of the attitude that the speedballers have. Arrogance and agressiviness do have their place on a paintball field, but not as a way of life. Do you actually think that ramping is what gave the speedballers their attitude?

The thing that I like about woodball is that there is a place for all kinds of personalities. Those that are aggresive get to do their thing and those that are passive get to do their thing. At my field, we play for the FUN of it. We dont have tourneys, we dont have rankings, we dont do that. This is a kids game that the grownups adopted for their own, to be kids again. If the players that you play with are not up to your standards, then find some place else to play. Or quit. Complaining about change does not stop the change. If there are certain parts of the game that you dont agree with, then dont associate with those parts. It really is very simple.

Oh, and have you ever been deep sea fishing? Guess what, they got motors on the reels, and Yea, its fun.

I think Kruger hit the nail on the head.

[FromTheBack]

Can someone please help me here. I need to know what is the difference between Ramping and full auto?

PSP Tournament style ramping has three trigger pulls and then consistant 15 balls per second as long as you keep the trigger pulling a minimum of 6 (I think) balls per second.

X-Ball Ramping is 2 pulls then you hold down the trigger for 15bps

Full Auto is simply pulling the trigger once, holding it down, and that is usually capped around 10 balls per second

[warbeak2099]

Ramping takes the emphasis off of who has the fastest fingers and puts it on who can think the fastest and make the best decisions. It puts more emphasis on strategy since it's much harder to move with a consistant 15bps flying through the air. I like it because now you actually have to use some brain cells to make a move. You also have to rely more on teamwork. Sorry, but controlled ramping is actually pretty good for the sport. Now uncapped ramping where people are shooting 20-30bps is retarded and dangerous.

[CKY_Alliance]

Can someone please help me here. I need to know what is the difference between Ramping and full auto?

Ramping is assisted shooting, the board is programmed to add shots..you still have to pull the trigger but you can pull 3 bps and shoot 15...full auto is full auto hold the trigger down and it rolls...ramping you still have to pull and release the trigger..and there are many different styles of ramping theres preset modes for different seires like psp, nxl (which is ramping that activates full auto) millenium, then you have percentage ramp..however fast you pull it will add a certian % of those shots to assist you and allow you to shoot faster, there is rebound which is one shot per pull and release..and umm ye..theres others but its all really the same..just assisted shooting.


It is beneficial..i can pull just as fast in semi if i choose(15 bps cap that is..) but ramping makes it a lot easier..running and gunning takes less work..you can shoot faster while reloading instead of just one balling..and if its legal why not use it..

[RRfireblade]

Ramping, used well, helps.

^^^ QFT

[RRfireblade]

Helps what?

Helps the 99.9% of the world who couldn't hit 15+ bps to save thier life , which without arguement increases the # of shots on target and therefore the potential for an Elimination , and Now they can do it ....

With on finger left or right handed ,


On the run off the break when not a single player in the world could get anywhere near close to 15 one handed and on the run ,

On the run moving from bunker to bunker when not a single player in the world could get anywhere near close to 15 one handed and on the run ,

While reloading ,

And any number of a dozen other areas that were Ramping not allowed , 15BPS would not be possible by anyone , anywhere , with any marker.....in legal semi.

:)

[autococker04]

i hate it when people find that it is absolutely nessissary, like they cant play semi, and those who cant controle it

[mobsterboy]

Helps the 99.9% of the world who couldn't hit 15+ bps to save thier life , which without arguement increases the # of shots on target and therefore the potential for an Elimination , and Now they can do it ....

With on finger left or right handed ,


On the run off the break when not a single player in the world could get anywhere near close to 15 one handed and on the run ,

On the run moving from bunker to bunker when not a single player in the world could get anywhere near close to 15 one handed and on the run ,

While reloading ,

And any number of a dozen other areas that were Ramping not allowed , 15BPS would not be possible by anyone , anywhere , with any marker.....in legal semi.

:)

My point exactly. so people who cant walk to save their lives, this is a handicap, not a help.
SCPoloRicker, those posts never get old, NEVER

[dahoeb]

i don't think its much different than putting cork in a bat. thats just my opinion.

[mobsterboy]

i don't think its much different than putting cork in a bat. thats just my opinion.

QFT

[Lenny]

I'm ok with controlled ramping. Once you get into that "unlimited" stuff, it's a bit unsafe.

I've used ramping once, maybe twice. I don't like it. I feel... out of control. I am no longer controlling the amount of paint going into the air, a computer is. I could stop shooting and two, maybe three more balls will fly out of the barrel.

It makes me uncomfortable.

Though, I will add, it is really impressive on the target range. Just hearing that "pf-pf-pf-pf-pf-pf-pf!" is cool.

EDIT:
I should add this. I've been playing majority pump for a little while now, and all I can say is if you want to improve your skills, this is how to do it.

Oh, and always shoot large bore paint out of a non-removable barrel. Always!

Viva le Pump! (and viva le Automag, too. It's still my favorite semi.)

[Lohman446]

My point exactly. so people who cant walk to save their lives, this is a handicap, not a help.
SCPoloRicker, those posts never get old, NEVER

What about those of us that think that trigger skill should not be one of the skill sets tested in paintball. This removes it from the skillset tested by the game. That some 400lb player could stand in the back and shoot 15BPS in semi and have basically no other skill and be considered good was ludicrous. No offense intended, because I realize that good back players do far more than just shoot paint, but it seems not everyone on the field has had that realization

[Lohman446]

Id suggest playing: Tag. Hide and go seek. Red Rover. Flag Football. Dodge ball. Capture the Flag.

If you want to play a shooting sport based on capture the flag, shooting should be part of the skill set. End of story.

Shooting, sure - accuracy, leading a moving target wonderful. Moving my fingers really really fast - bleh Just because you have an opinion Lord Rogue does not mean it is the end of story, despite your declarations, sorry.

[punkncat]

Please....not this......AGAIN........

[Lohman446]

Lord Lohman, if you want a sport that requires accuracy and leading a moving target, without shooting skill, play dodge ball.

If you want to play a shooting sport/game, shooting should be a part of the skillset. You cant shoot a ball without pulling the trigger, which should require skill. How fast and accurate you are is dependent upon your trigger discipline.

If youve been trained to handle firearms, you should know this. The discipline of technique in martial arts is no different. Being the self-proclaimed gun-totting martial artist that you are, one would think you would agree with this basic premise.

Instead, with a non-shooting skillset, pulling the trigger lacks the requisite skills for accuracy and leading a target to be a skill. It becomes about "accuracy by volume" and the spray-n-pray technique, so commonly used.

My point is this. I like shooting skills to be part of the skillset, the game could not exist without them You would be playing tag. Ramping does away with the ability to pull the trigger fast as part of the skillset.

Accuracy, aiming, leading a target: Great parts of the skillset tested by paintball

Moving my fingers fast: Not a great part of the skillset tested, in my opinion.

Ramping takes moving my fingers fast out of the skillset