How about an "economy" e-grip from AGD?

[PyRo]

Well, i'm probably that last one who should be posting in this thread, i wouldn't buy one, money better spent on retro valve
I would say probably $200 would be fair, for a basic electro grip frame, with no LCD, not differant modes, just semi auto, with a safty, and whatever else is required to make it tournement legal.
It would probably cost alot to manufacture an electro grip that actually works. This judgment made on the booya and hyperframe, which cost around $300 and have problems. Figure a frame that works would cost more to manufacture. You also have to take into account the warenty work, and the fact that probably 10%-25% of guns probably will not work with the new frame, and have to be sent into AGD for some minor modifications.

[st6212]

a person, Plainview batteries at http://www.plainviewbatteries.com/
I think the consensus by almost everyone here, that these are one of the best 9-volt rechargeables around.

Pyro, what if you already have a retrovalve, then the best next upgrade would be an electronic frame. AGD made the natural progression from the straight retro to electro-retro. E-Mag is essentially an RT Pro turned electro.

I think using the same .45 frame AGD are developing is a good idea. It cuts down the cost and time to develop a new frame design. I do agree with the idea of not needing the "Bells & whistles", I wouldn't mind it though. But honestly, I wouldn't even use them or forget that those featrues exist. Heck, alot of times I forget that my Revvy can....well, rev....and forget to turn it on before each game.

Also, I think the main thing that sets the e-mag frame apart from the booyaah and hyperframe in terms of reliability, is the quality of the solenoid used. Look at the size of that thing

[This message has been edited by st6212 (edited 07-16-2001).]

[MicroB]

IF you don't have different modes theres no need for a board or programs at all. You could just put a micro switch that activates the solenoid. This would cut down on cost and reliabilty problems.

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2001 Micromag RT w/68-4500, Z-grip and Lapco big Shot.

[MAGgot Man]

I STILL think you should have a an electro/mech. switch. If you run into probs with the electronics(im in the electronics business so you WILL run into probs) or you start having probs with your gun that mech switch will really come in handy for troubleshooting.

As far as a rechargable battery goes...I dont think that needs to be thrown in....you can get them anywhere. Voltage is Voltage no matter what the source, as long as you have the correct amount things should work out fine. Actually I was thinking about coming up with a rig that would let me run a warp feed, agitated hopper, and Emag(when I fianlly get one) all from those versa pak drill batteries.

Also(maybe im showing my lack of knowlege here) what would the point be of having a semi only electro grip?? If your gonna stick with semi mode only then a mechanical trigger would accomidate that just fine. So i think if your gonna have an electro, there should be more than one mode.

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[st6212]

Originally posted by MAGgot Man:
I STILL think you should have a an electro/mech. switch. If you run into probs with the electronics(im in the electronics business so you WILL run into probs) or you start having probs with your gun that mech switch will really come in handy for troubleshooting.

As far as a rechargable battery goes...I dont think that needs to be thrown in....you can get them anywhere. Voltage is Voltage no matter what the source, as long as you have the correct amount things should work out fine. Actually I was thinking about coming up with a rig that would let me run a warp feed, agitated hopper, and Emag(when I fianlly get one) all from those versa pak drill batteries.

Also(maybe im showing my lack of knowlege here) what would the point be of having a semi only electro grip?? If your gonna stick with semi mode only then a mechanical trigger would accomidate that just fine. So i think if your gonna have an electro, there should be more than one mode.

[This message has been edited by MAGgot Man (edited 07-16-2001).]

Yep, will be nice to have more than one mode, as I doubt it costs that much...its only small bits of code. But it still isn't necessary.

What I really see is the advantage of electro regardless of what/how many modes and features, is that it totally eliminates short-stroking, you can shoot faster as there is less resistence, and you tend to shoot better when there is less movement in pulling the trigger.

Fine by me if there are different modes, just not necessary for me, as I play tourney they are pretty much useless.

[MAGgot Man]

I would be curious to know what AGD thinks about this.

[rifleman]

Ya, me too!

[Skyssx]

I'll toss in my .02 here too.

If AGD made one tolerance issues would be negated... if they can make a mechanical frame, and an electro gun, they can certainly make a bolt on electro grip.

Features.
Electro only or there is no reason to get the heavier emag.
No LCD or LED display, one LED power/fire light.
Semi, 3 shot burst, autoresponce, FA.
Adjustable fire rate.
No external buttons.
Compatable with firearms industry standard 45 grips, not dye 45 imatation grips.
Trigger adjustable in 3 directions, forwards backwards and side to side.
On/off electronics switch that also functions as safety.
Possibly a 2x and 1x version. (i'd get 2x)

Thats about all I can think of. Pricing could be as high or slightly higher than a CFP hyperframe. I'd buy one in an instant if this happened.

[PyromaniaX]

*cough* *cough* AGD we need some input here.

[ReTroMagBoy]

you guys ask for WAY too much. Seriously though, not trying to be rude here but lately any idea that people come up with now on they automatically expect AGD to make it...
look how many things AGD is working on right now and take a step back. If AGD is interested, they will say something!

[st6212]

Originally posted by ReTroMagBoy:
you guys ask for WAY too much. Seriously though, not trying to be rude here but lately any idea that people come up with now on they automatically expect AGD to make it...
look how many things AGD is working on right now and take a step back. If AGD is interested, they will say something!

That's how ideas come to fruition. It's all about thinking new things, about brainstorming, creativity.

It's how AGD themselves come up with the products they have. As Tom says, they listen to what people are looking for and want.

If everyone were to sit around not expressing their ideas, then there wouldn't be anything new being developed.

If AGD aren't interested, then fine, it's their decision. It's just something alot of people here feel they want.

[MAGgot Man]

I agree 100% with ST6212. How can AGD stay innovative if they dont know what the thier customers want. Plus isnt that the first thing you learn in business 101?

[daklown33]

I dont have an automag yet, but wouldnt it be nice to make it "short stroking proof" thats one reason why im not dead sest on getting a mag, beacause of short stroking.

Make it at least responsive, burst would be awesome i think.

[mykroft]

daklown33: It's not a real problem, once you play with it a little, I can't remember the last time I short stroked, except when I was out of air.

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[Blue 88]

If AGD made an E-grip I would no boubt buy it for 350. Of course it tould have to accept standard mag sears somehow, or have replacements somewhat avalable.