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  • cyrus-the-virus
    http://www.thepbforum.com/
    • Feb 2006
    • 1259

    #31
    Originally posted by BigEvil
    There are Palmers enthusiasts that would kill someone for even thinking bad thoughts about Palmers products.... They even scare me


    Conversation between me and a Palmer user before a game:
    Me "Hey is that a Typhoon you got there?"
    Him "YEAH YOU WANNA MAKE SOMETHING OF IT?"
    Me "Uh no sir... just uh... umm admiring it....uh..."
    Him "You just take your paintball ruining elelctro and go hang out on PBN"
    Me" UH REF.. Im sitting this one out!!"


    great I now have to clean off my screen....thanks, I'll send you the bill.

    electronics didn't ruin paintball, spoiled brats and corprate lawyers did

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    • GT
      Automag?
      • Dec 2001
      • 5786

      #32
      I'd like to thank some of you guys for the posts in this thread. Any chats/emails/convo's I have had with folks about blazers were similiar to BE's experience. I could never get a straight answer. As suspected some are good some are not. I am intrested in more commentary from user's if you got it.
      FOR SALE
      on/off, sear, PROConnect
      AGD back bottle asa, laser logo

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      • cyrus-the-virus
        http://www.thepbforum.com/
        • Feb 2006
        • 1259

        #33
        Originally posted by GT
        I'd like to thank some of you guys for the posts in this thread. Any chats/emails/convo's I have had with folks about blazers were similiar to BE's experience. I could never get a straight answer. As suspected some are good some are not. I am intrested in more commentary from user's if you got it.
        What more is there to say?

        It's a great gun, arguably the best gun in the paintball world to use with CO2.

        Like all gun's there are going to be lemons but every company has some of those.

        It's the autococker for retards, come tuned perfectly from the factory and you never need to do anyything more than to take it into the shower with you and oil it after words.

        It's expensive, but then again most highend markers are expensive.

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        • wjr
          Registered User
          • Feb 2006
          • 995

          #34
          Originally posted by GT
          I'd like to thank some of you guys for the posts in this thread. Any chats/emails/convo's I have had with folks about blazers were similiar to BE's experience. I could never get a straight answer. As suspected some are good some are not. I am intrested in more commentary from user's if you got it.
          I'll sum up my experience with the blazer and with PPS.

          I first got it as part of the twin Blazer sale. I took it out to the field with me, and here's what happened.

          Throughout the day, the bolt kept on getting stuck in the barrel. I posted this on MCB. Here was my response from Craig Palmer:
          Originally posted by Palmer
          Loosen the front barrel screw and rotate the barrel untill you find a spot that does not rub on the bolt. The brass extrusion might be a little out of round at the chamber end
          I'm not exactly upset about it, just disappointed. I guess I'm just too used to AGD's quality

          So I fix it, and I go again to play the next week. Now I find that my Blazer was having chopping issues. Apparently it was because of a detent problem. I sent it to PPS about a month ago and have yet to receive it. Not saying that it's taking too long or anything. I can understand their situation. Just it's not a phenomenal turn around time.

          Overall I still like the Blazer, even though it never actually worked right the two times I played with it. Go figure

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          • SR_matt
            Santa Sucks
            • Jun 2006
            • 1072

            #35
            the barrel issue probably is casued becasue palmers does not have straight bore barreles (theres are eliptical bore... so turn () on its side and thats teh shape of the bore from front to back, and if that doesnt make sence still it goes from small to large to small from one slde to the other)

            im not sure exactly how they make the bore but the obviously have to get somethign to tilt as it bores so thats probably why you got slightly out of round ends.

            -matt

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            • craltal
              MCB, baby...
              • Oct 2003
              • 1452

              #36
              Originally posted by wjr
              I sent it to PPS about a month ago and have yet to receive it. Not saying that it's taking too long or anything. I can understand their situation. Just it's not a phenomenal turn around time.

              Call them about it and find if they sent it back to you yet. I had UPS lose my blazer and had to keep on top of things in order to get a replacement. PPS was really good about it, although it did take quite a long time for the whole process to play itself out.

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              • wjr
                Registered User
                • Feb 2006
                • 995

                #37
                Originally posted by craltal
                Call them about it and find if they sent it back to you yet. I had UPS lose my blazer and had to keep on top of things in order to get a replacement. PPS was really good about it, although it did take quite a long time for the whole process to play itself out.

                I guess I'd better do that then.

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                • minimag03
                  WVU paintball #19
                  • Dec 2003
                  • 2214

                  #38
                  I got a Blazer as part of a twin deal aswell. I honestly couldn't be more happy with it. The marker feels solid, very similar to all my mags. It's smoother than any cocker I have ever shot too.

                  As far as comparing the quality/reliablity of a Blazer to a mag, it's too difficult. Nothing really needs to be "adjusted" on a mag from the moment the parts are made besides the sear rod adjustment. And if that goes bad you buy a new sear. There are so many parts that go into a Blazer. And it's not just the volume of parts, it's the fact that each of those need to be adjusted just right. So when Palmers sends out a lemon give them a break and a chance to fix it. It's not that their quality is bad, it's that AGD's design is so good.
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                  • fastev
                    Registered User
                    • Aug 2004
                    • 183

                    #39
                    Originally posted by wjr
                    I have the same chopping problem with mine. Right now it's being worked on.

                    So I'm curious... was yours ever fixed?
                    Nope. That's why I sold it. I don't know if I had bad Blazer voodoo or what, but it never worked. I even shot it at their shop to prove I was not doing anything wrong. They kept trying to fix it but never could. I ended up selling it to a guy who wanted it regardless of the problems, and as far as I know, he continued to have the same problems.

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                    • GT
                      Automag?
                      • Dec 2001
                      • 5786

                      #40
                      Originally posted by cyrus-the-virus
                      Like all gun's there are going to be lemons but every company has some of those.

                      That is true but most owners beleive that the blazer is teh excailbur of markers. I had never heard any of the stories posted above.


                      Thanks for the posts guys.
                      FOR SALE
                      on/off, sear, PROConnect
                      AGD back bottle asa, laser logo

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                      • Prairie
                        Registered User
                        • Nov 2001
                        • 292

                        #41
                        I'd argue that the Excalibur is the excalibur of markers, but that is besides the point.



                        I <3 my Blazer.

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                        • WARPED1
                          I'm a pirate, ARRRRRRRRRR!
                          • Nov 2001
                          • 7458

                          #42
                          Originally posted by SR_matt
                          it also takes a lot of work to esentialy make a cocker that no one can mess up
                          (un less they have machining experance), or break down from just bad tolerances (some of the older cockers were able to do that but they were still very tinkerable)

                          the blazer takes all of the good parts of a cocker and all of the durablilty/ lack of teching of the older mags in once sexy package.

                          also you have to remember you are paying 160 for just the regs and thats if you only have the main line single reged.

                          -matt
                          Palmer created the autococking technology first. Jeff Orr(Bud's son) allegedly stole Palmers first autococking gun at an airport, shortly after, the Autococker was born.
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                          • wjr
                            Registered User
                            • Feb 2006
                            • 995

                            #43
                            Originally posted by WARPED1
                            Palmer created the autococking technology first. Jeff Orr(Bud's son) allegedly stole Palmers first autococking gun at an airport, shortly after, the Autococker was born.

                            I just some how don't believe that. Sounds like something that a Palmer Cultist would make up.

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                            • Lohman446
                              Useful posts: 7
                              • Jun 2003
                              • 9315

                              #44
                              Originally posted by wjr
                              I just some how don't believe that. Sounds like something that a Palmer Cultist would make up.
                              Pretty well documented... I am far from a Palmer's cultist and beleive there is at least some truth to it.
                              "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

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                              • WARPED1
                                I'm a pirate, ARRRRRRRRRR!
                                • Nov 2001
                                • 7458

                                #45
                                Originally posted by wjr
                                I just some how don't believe that. Sounds like something that a Palmer Cultist would make up.
                                Nope, I just had a teammate who had lunch with Glenn a few times. I don't own any Palmer products at all.
                                [Something Cool is Here]

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