2007 Euromag

[behemoth]

No problemo dude!!

whats the imput pressure to that mag? 1000?

[andy@fatbobs]

whats the imput pressure to that mag? 1000?

950, it's on a Smart Parts old style maxflo.

We don't use any mags like that, it's just for illustrative purposes.

[behemoth]

950, it's on a Smart Parts old style maxflo.

We don't use any mags like that, it's just for illustrative purposes.

Okay, so, if you dont use your mags like that, you just play with them in semi.

When, an electro can shoot like that legally...

You win how?

[punkncat]

I would like to point out to you that...

... the accuracy and range of the mag's

...is no better than any other standard marker with a quality barrel and paint, at the same velocity. The only barrel proven to increase range is a flatline or similar "backspin" tech. At teh cost of accuracy and actually being able to bust a ball on target.


I appreciate what you are trying to do/say. Understand there are many old school forum regulars here that don't fall for the hype any longer. Not all of us are as honery as we are coming off here, but what you said is noobilicious.

[behemoth]

I would like to point out to you that...



...is no better than any other standard marker with a quality barrel and paint, at the same velocity. The only barrel proven to increase range is a flatline or similar "backspin" tech. At teh cost of accuracy and actually being able to bust a ball on target.


I appreciate what you are trying to do/say. Understand there are many old school forum regulars here that don't fall for the hype any longer. Not all of us are as honery as we are coming off here, but what you said is noobilicious.

Oh wow, i missed that part.

Good thing, too.

[andy@fatbobs]

Okay, so, if you dont use your mags like that, you just play with them in semi.

When, an electro can shoot like that legally...

You win how?

Because people are obsessed with BPS. Trying to sell a mech which is double the price of an electro, on range an accuracy alone is fairly difficult although we are getting through to the more discerning player.

It's a bit like when you see vids for electro guns firing on unlimited ramp. We don't allow ramping in tourny's or walkon's in the UK, but these vids are very good adverts.

[behemoth]

Because people are obsessed with BPS. Trying to sell a mech which is double the price of an electro, on range an accuracy alone is fairly difficult although we are getting through to the more discerning player.

It's a bit like when you see vids for electro guns firing on unlimited ramp. We don't allow ramping in tourny's or walkon's in the UK, but these vids are very good adverts.

Again,

RANGE AND ACCURACY IS ONLY AFFECTED BY THE PAINT TO BARREL MATCH, AND PAINT QUALITY.

an electro shooting 300fps and a mag shooting 300fps will go the same distance.

[punkncat]

Don....do you have a cousin in the UK?

[behemoth]

Don....do you have a cousin in the UK?

/high five.

[Niox]

[punkncat]

Beefing up hype that has both already been done, and determined to be illegal at any pay to play field, puts a target on you. Especially from people who are "in the know". Good luck with the marketing campain, but honestly I think you will find a similar reaction.

[REDRT]

. Mags havn't been imported into the UK for 4 or 5 years.

This last summer I called AGD because I was looking for a part that was late coming. Over the phone it was because they were working on a big order they were shipping to the UK. This is all I know...

[Niox]

Beefing up hype that has both already been done, and determined to be illegal at any pay to play field, puts a target on you. Especially from people who are "in the know". Good luck with the marketing campain, but honestly I think you will find a similar reaction.

I'm not saying it isn't illegal at every site far from it. I just think instead of flaming the poor lad you should be just pointing him in the direction of this explaining a little to him about why it is illegal and why it is bad and atleast praising him for trying his best to get AGD more noted in the UK.

I hate generalising paintballers in the UK, I really do as there are so many decent ones, but the buying public, to the best of my knowledge in the UK like that kind of stuff. Back when the ill fated Gizmos (or Guerrilla whichever you wish to call it) was still going they did a video of a Karnie doing 50bps with an illegal mod or some witchcraft. Show up to a field with that and I bet they will show you the door pretty quick, but Gizmos sales of Karnies increased with that video on their site.

Much love,
Niox

P.S - I know this will sound sarcastic but it isn't, I like the quip on "in the know", good one.
P.P.S - I'm gonna butt out now as I don't want to get in a flame war with any of you as I'm new here and I'm sure you're all very nice people and I'm a bit dense so I can't really have very good arguments with you all.

[punkncat]

I'm not saying it isn't illegal at every site far from it. I just think instead of flaming the poor lad you should be just pointing him in the direction of this explaining a little to him about why it is illegal and why it is bad and atleast praising him for trying his best to get AGD more noted in the UK.

I hate generalising paintballers in the UK, I really do as there are so many decent ones, but the buying public, to the best of my knowledge in the UK like that kind of stuff. Back when the ill fated Gizmos (or Guerrilla whichever you wish to call it) was still going they did a video of a Karnie doing 50bps with an illegal mod or some witchcraft. Show up to a field with that and I bet they will show you the door pretty quick, but Gizmos sales of Karnies increased with that video on their site.

Much love,
Niox

P.S - I know this will sound sarcastic but it isn't, I like the quip on "in the know", good one.

Thanks....

I am glad to see someone taking intrest in being a distrubutor there. I guess that waiting for overseas shipping kinda stinks. Mags are so reliable that its rare to really need help once they are right, but we are spoiled with several good dealers close by.

Marketing a mag is a tricky thing...I mean honestly, what can you say?

Mags
Just as good as they were 10 years ago.

or

AGD...we found aluminum 5 years ago....

It really is a challenge. The reputation really sort of speaks for itself. In a modern world of hype, there is nothing more to say.

[Phillips]

No, i figured you'd get that, being english and all.


Apparently not. I better brush up on my cockney slang.

You my friend are a tommy tanker :)
That IS cockney slang.

Mags..... quality , we all agree.
There are perfectly respectable markers that outperform mags, we all agree.
Not even 4% of the population speaks like a cockney idiot..... we all know.
Stop arguing it's only a good thing that we can acess automags through another outlet.
Yey lets all go balling.