2007 Euromag

[Niox]

You my friend are a tommy tanker
That IS cockney slang.

Mags..... quality , we all agree.
There are perfectly respectable markers that outperform mags, we all agree.
Not even 4% of the population speaks like a cockney idiot..... we all know.
Stop arguing it's only a good thing that we can acess automags through another outlet.
Yey lets all go balling.

Can you Adam and Eve it! A post from Phillips without widespread typographical errors! Next thing you know he will be having a shower AND using soap (he does pen and ink a bit).

Sorry that was a lot off topic, but hey, I'm ginger

[behemoth]

You my friend are a tommy tanker
That IS cockney slang.

Mags..... quality , we all agree.
There are perfectly respectable markers that outperform mags, we all agree.
Not even 4% of the population speaks like a cockney idiot..... we all know.
Stop arguing it's only a good thing that we can acess automags through another outlet.
Yey lets all go balling.

The cockney thing was a joke.

And i'll take the tommy tanker comment

[minimag03]

I don't see the problem with a little hype used to sell mags in any country.

[y0da900]

Because people are obsessed with BPS. Trying to sell a mech which is double the price of an electro, on range an accuracy alone is fairly difficult although we are getting through to the more discerning player.

It's a bit like when you see vids for electro guns firing on unlimited ramp. We don't allow ramping in tourny's or walkon's in the UK, but these vids are very good adverts.

If you are getting through to people by selling them on accuracy and range, I hate to tell you, but those aren't the discerning players, they are just the ones buying the hype (read as lies) you are feeding them.

[Phillips]

It's a sales pitch, not the laws of thermodynamics.
I remember a Dye barrel that had a description as follows, "This barrels porting means never before seen accuracy and is designed for further range".
If you buy a marker without knowing all the details then you are partly responsible.
I wouldn't go out and buy a blade then complain it isn't as good as the Ego, I actually have knowledge of things before I purchase.

[CKY_Alliance]

The woodland tourny scene is just going through a revival in the UK at the moment, the accuracy and range of the mag's will dominate we just need to get the kids away from the spray and pray mentality. Putting the vid on our forum was to show these people what is achievable through quality rather than cheap electronics.

The sale of mags is going reasonably well, it's still winter and out of season over here but we are pleased with initial interest.

So you "market" the mags to them with a video of it bouncing like mad? Ummm...ye.

[AGDRetro]

Its nice to see what the valve can do, but it isn't anything new to the AO crowd.

If you want to make an impression on people tell them it is mechanical and pull a legal 14 bps... it is still VERY impressive.

[PsychoBaller]

950, it's on a Smart Parts old style maxflo.

Dang... your setup is a mixing of AGD and... ... Smart Parts ??

[paintballfiend]

If what they are doing is increasing the sale and overall love of mags, I say let them.

[Chronobreak]

if you have a problem with their selling tactics perhaps you should suggest alternative ones instead of ridiculing them.

the mag "reliability test" on vetters site is also a great vid

[warbeak2099]

Mags are no more accurate nor do they have longer range than any other gun with the same barrel and paint, and same velocity.

That is just like any other mech mag with an RT style valve. There is no such thing as a Euromag.

Your marketing is just as hype filled as any company pushing "cheap electros".

Ramping is allowed in UK and European tournys. It's called Millenium.

Conclusion = you're full of it

/thread

[gus13]

alright, I've gotta say I can see both sides of this. FatBob is looking for a way to show the UK "kiddies" what a Mag can do by saying "Hey look at how FAST this thing can shoot!!" and all the UK Kiddies go, "oooooh, cool! I gotta get me one of those!" but the problem is that what they see and what they will be allowed to do with it after purchase are two totally different things. Why not show the setup, explain what makes a mag so great,quality, reliability,comfort, accuracy(yes I said it!)warranty,etc. Then show a vid of someone shooting it in legal semi mode.even do some action shots from a tourney...nothing sells better than action dude! heck you could even go into AGD's illustrious history in the sport and tell people how far AGD helped to advance the technology Everyone who plays takes for granted, i.e. constant air, HPA, goggle systems etc etc, believe me the list goes on and on.
In the end I kinda think AGD would be above the hype of "Look at me, look at me! I've got a faster marker than you! (whether that person would ever be able to meet the markers true abilities or not - I mean do you know anyone that can shoot 30 BPS w/out bouncing or ramping of any kind- TRUE SEMI??) I think AGD has always been about quality and superb performance along with total reliability for years to come.
so why not show some integrity to the consumer and the product itself and sell it for what it really is, a great, reliable, and quality marker that is backed by one of the last survivors of the "old days"of this sport.
just a thought.

[ProblemKinder]

i agree. smart parts maxiflow? blasphemous...

[Niox]

Mags are no more accurate nor do they have longer range than any other gun with the same barrel and paint, and same velocity. [1]

That is just like any other mech mag with an RT style valve. There is no such thing as a Euromag. [2]

Your marketing is just as hype filled as any company pushing "cheap electros". [3]

Ramping is allowed in UK and European tournys. It's called Millenium. [4]

Conclusion = you're full of it [5]

/thread

[1] Yeah we all know that and if we didn't, I think we do now as that is the like the 3rd time it has been mentioned.

[2] Yes there is such a thing as a Euromag, it is in Fat Bob's online store labeled as a Euromag, it is a custom Mag built to Fat Bob's specification, if they want to call it a Euromag then it is a Euromag. You can also buy all the parts and turn your Mag into a Euromag.

[3] Really? You're probably right there bud and I think I might actually agree, maybe a better idea would be to demonstrate how indestructable the Mag is and doing a tourney legal RoF demonstration.

[4] Do you live in the UK? Millenium isn't the only tourney we have and to my knowledge very few if none of the other tournies permit ramping. Full auto is against the law here in the UK, ramping and alike are in the governments own words "a grey area". They have not said it is legal and have not said it isn't, they are waiting for a court case involving ramping etc so a judge may decide.

[5] Now this isn't very nice now is it

i agree. smart parts maxiflow? blasphemous...

Your sir are 100% true. Nuff said.

[andy@fatbobs]

I would just like to say thank you very much for the warm welcome that you have shown me on Automags.org.

Had I known it was a pissing competition then perhaps I would have posted links to my cridentials such as

https://www.ypc.co.uk

https://www.fatbobspaintball.co.uk

https://www.talkpaintball.com

https://www.nationalpaintballclub.co.uk

https://www.automagsuk.com

and then invited the halfwits who have posted to share their paintball cridentials.

As it happens I have just removed the link from automagsuk.com to this forum as I will not subject any of our customers to the abuse that I have received on here. Instead we have set up an Automags section within our own forum where we can filter out the idiots.

As I understood it, Automags.org was the best forum in the US, now I know it is no better than PB Nation.

I believe that the Automag is the best marker in the world, which is why we have started to import them into the UK, Fatbobs will continue to sell them in the best way that we see fit and in the way that has brought Fatbobspaintball.co.uk to become the UK's largest online paintball shop and to maximise sales in the UK.

We will no longer participate on Automags.org