What does AGD see as there "new" customer

[Lohman446]

In a sport with a constantly changing demographic you are going to change customers, its part of life. Sure there is going to be the demographic that sticks around, but its not like we need to buy a new mag every year - at least most of us I would think.

What does AGDs new customer look like? How do they come to buy a product from AGD over the other offerings out there?

[MANN]

but its not like we need to buy a new mag every year - at least most of us I would think.?

The one who dies with the most working paintball guns wins.

As far as their new customers. Probally only woodsball type players with their tac.

[Lohman446]

The one who dies with the most working paintball guns wins.

As far as their new customers. Probally only woodsball type players with their tac.

How? How do you convince a woodsballer to buy a Mag over a Tippman, SP-8, Blazer, Autococker, etc.

[flashgordon]

I play primarily woodsball which IS NOT scenario ball. All these milsims have absolutely no utility in the woods.

I bought a mag as my second marker because

1. Of the simplicity of design
2. Reliability
3. No chops, no kick
4. Relatively light and compact.

What drew me to buy a mag was these forums. I saw a custom mag by Pointm@n, chrome with yellow details. I rushed out and bought a mag as soon as I could.

--
Tippmanns, are boats. No comparison to a mag.
SP-8.. I have been poisioned against smartparts by propaganda
Autocockers - bad reputation

In general I would think that the high quality/tolerances, and extremely reliable design would draw the eye of a more responsible consumer who does not have the money for the latest and greatest. The Tac-One targets the woodball scene because a lot of people equate milsim with woodsball.

[nathanjones008]

customers

I think the elect are coming out of the forest of darkness( flashy shiny guns.) I have seen a increase of mags where i am from. I think paintballers will get tired of all the cheaply made flashy markers and buy something that is tried and true(aka a mag) this fab is just a phase. all the mag shooters that play with me are intelligent about their decision on buying as mag, they didnt just buy it (a mag) becasue it cute or anything. They actually did their research.

[MANN]

How? How do you convince a woodsballer to buy a Mag over a Tippman, SP-8, Blazer, Autococker, etc.

That is a good question, and one that every company tries to solve to have a corner on the market. As for my oppinion I think AGD should just keep making solid mech markers.

I know that I have wanted an automag since I saw one in the early 90s. I have played on and off for at least 10 years. Here recently we have a decent turnout of players/friends that get together every 2-3 weeks to play. I was the first to get an automag, and it seems that it is contagous (sp) It spread to my lil brother, and 6 other friends. Now 25% of us use AGD guns, and I always bring the loaners to try to put interste in new players. There are still some of the players that think their black Ion is the shizzle, but they are always on the losing team.

If there were one thing that AGD should/could do it would be better marketing. How is the question. They have to prove to noobs that their guns will be around longer then tippys and spyders which from our standpoint is obvious, but not everyone else is as intelligent as us (AO) They have to do this without wasting money on adds/ lowering their standards to make guns cheaper. I would say just come out with new products ie new bodies/other accessories to keep the current AOers content. We will keep bring newbs to this wonderful product.

[bleachit]

They have to prove to noobs that their guns will be around longer then tippys and spyders which from our standpoint is obvious

You are a bit too quick to underestimate tippy's. I have a model 98 that is going on 8 years maybe.. my brother bought it new and I bought it off of him. still kicking strong. My friend as a couple used tippys that shoot great that are even older.


An automag can last a long time, but so can a tippy.

[MANN]

You are a bit too quick to underestimate tippy's. I have a model 98 that is going on 8 years maybe.. my brother bought it new and I bought it off of him. still kicking strong. My friend as a couple used tippys that shoot great that are even older.


An automag can last a long time, but so can a tippy.

I have nothing against tippys. I have 2 prolites that my brother and I got when they first came out. They are still being kicked around every once and a while. They were built like tanks. Unfortuently their field strip capability is the same as a tanks also. It requires alot more time/tools to replace all of the orings. As for an automag when they break/leak I can completely rebuild one with a penny(level 7 bolt tips) and usually in 5 min or less. That is what appeals to me. AGD products always use the kiss system.

[bleachit]

you have a good point, but I have never seen a stock tippmann needing to be field stripped.

[Duzzy]

How? How do you convince a woodsballer to buy a Mag over a Tippman, SP-8, Blazer, Autococker, etc.

Because the only other "high end" (And I use that term loosely here.) in that list besides the 'Mag is a marker that is probably even less known than the 'Mag.

Tippmanns are nice for the most part. I have never shot any kind of Ion so I won't comment. Autocockers seem to have a stigma of outdatedism, and the new 'Cocker looks like junk in the aesthetic department. And how many people honestly know what a Blazer is without having to Google it after they read this? Maybe a decent amount here, but on PBN? Or elsewhere?

Palmer's generally seems to be known for regulators and Nasty Typhoons and that's about all that I've seen.

[robnix]

How? How do you convince a woodsballer to buy a Mag over a Tippman, SP-8, Blazer, Autococker, etc.

A buddy of mine plays and kicks *** with a powerfeed classic with a level 7, OLD steel tank, and a taped up revvy. He convinces them by doing the following two things:

1) He plays well, and honorably.
2) He makes a show out of washing his mag out by shooting water through it. It's funny, grabs attention, and gets people talking about mags.

[JimmyBeam]

IMHO

If AGD decides to go all out pump, they will do very well. Ive seen three pumps today alone that went for 700+


Mags are sexy, they always have been. They are just very inefficient for normal games. Which for some is ok.


/beats dead horse


but pumps are coming back in a strong way....milk it

[Aggravated Assault]

Originally Posted by Lohman446
Say I have $500 I want to spend on a marker. For simplicity sake lets say I only desire to buy a new marker. The mag is towards the top of that budget. Why a Mag over a Tippman?

Originally Posted by JimmyBeam

Mags are sexy..

I've yet to see a sexy Tippman.

Originally Posted by Lohman446
Why a Mag over a Rail? Why a Mag over a Fusion?

Ok, I hardly ever check new gun prices, but are those markers THAT much cheaper than a nice mag?? If the prices are anywhere close to even I'd have to say you sell it on the old mech toughness and reliability...Thats something most of us can agree mags are. Tough. Reliable. Built to last.

and sexy

[JimmyBeam]

Ok, I hardly ever check new gun prices, but are those markers THAT much cheaper than a nice mag??

the new rail is 399

[captian pinky]

most of the people at pbc have had or shoot a mag or pump gun so go agd