AO: We are back from the dead... again! After an 18 day outage, we are finally alive and well. Who knew how complicated updating software/databases from 2008 would be. I still have alot of tweaks to make, but my main goal was getting everything patched and updated to 2026.
Vbulletin 6 has changed alot since 2008 so we will have a ton of new features to dig into.
1. Marketing. The word has to get out to the people. If propoganda says it's better or worse who's to say it isn't?
2. Servicability. When I first got my mag I had no damn idea what to do with it when I had problems, luckily I had a tech near me. Tippmanns have a wide base of techs that understand them.
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AGD needs to revamp the idea of the mag from something oldschool to a woodballing beast and get the word out there. MAKE IT the high end woodball gun. Right now the A-5 and X-7 fill that role...which isnt very impressive for high end to say the least.
well, whatever makes you sleep better at night....
What he says is true in alot of cases. Personally when I play against regular rec ballers I use a mech or pump for the most part. Now for tourneys generally I run my ramping electro paint slingers. Different animals require different guns.
What you are failing to see is that some people are wired differently than yourself.
I know exactly where Rogue is coming from.
In the semi-mechanical world, the mag is at the top of the food chain for choices.
Definatly true, my team used Mech Mags as our main tourney markers 2 years ago and they performed flawlessly, we played against the electro paint slingers and still did rather well, actually we took first in the circuit we compeat in, the last year when we all got high doller electros we didn't do nearly as well. I think it because we had to play smarter with the mags and then with the higher firepower markers we did alot more trying to rely on the marker which doesn't work.
That being said, I definatly think that mag owners are USUALLY the people who research thier markers befor buying as opposed to just buying.
To some degree you have to. Where can you "just buy" a mag?
Don't know if i understand the question. I can't imagine why anyone would just buy a marker without researching it unless they are little kiddies who wanna get what their friend has because it shoots lots of paint.
I don't think there is anywhere you will walk in and say "Yeah, i want that one" and point to a mag.
I think the best route to go is education. Like I said, education of the store workers is important. I know that in my decision the knowledable staff members swayed me to get a mag because of its reliability and so forth. They had only good things to say.
mabe they see people who have played paintball, and know what they are doing to be thier coustomers. ADG obviously isn't aimed at 10 year olds (not saying it can't be).
Don't know if i understand the question. I can't imagine why anyone would just buy a marker without researching it unless they are little kiddies who wanna get what their friend has because it shoots lots of paint.
I don't think there is anywhere you will walk in and say "Yeah, i want that one" and point to a mag.
I think the best route to go is education. Like I said, education of the store workers is important. I know that in my decision the knowledable staff members swayed me to get a mag because of its reliability and so forth. They had only good things to say.
I can walk into most paintball stores and walk out with an Ion / Tippman / Spyder / Rail - etc. No "education" required. I cannot walk into most and buy a mag.
I can walk into most paintball stores and walk out with an Ion / Tippman / Spyder / Rail - etc. No "education" required. I cannot walk into most and buy a mag.
I'm sure partly. I'm sure there is a counter example out there. So the idea that the mag buyer is more educated - yeh, there more informed, they have to to even find where to buy one. I don't beleive I can even buy one from the most prevelant online retailers.
But really, it seems just a piece of the puzzle. Certainly AGD has a target in mind, I was just curious as to what it was - the how is another question.
I'm sure partly. I'm sure there is a counter example out there. So the idea that the mag buyer is more educated - yeh, there more informed, they have to to even find where to buy one. I don't beleive I can even buy one from the most prevelant online retailers.
But really, it seems just a piece of the puzzle. Certainly AGD has a target in mind, I was just curious as to what it was - the how is another question.
Well, I am not sure that AGD HAS a marketing target. Do they even advertise anymore? Very rarely do I even see an ad for automags. Is the marketing strategy "no marketing at all"?
WOW, sigs. Havent seen these in a while here on AO.
Sometimes I think they already have their market. Its us. They may be perfectly content running a small operation, small staff. This keeps costs and overhead down to a minimum. Marketing and Advertising cost a lot of money. They may like being under the radar, kinda like Palmers, CCM, etc.
I assume most people on this forum like things this way too. A lot of us like that mags are unique and rare just as much as their performance and reliability. If mags were as popular as Ions, Tippmans, and the rest, we might not cherish them as much as we do. I know I wouldn't.
If mags were that popular, I would probably buy a different marker. I get a kick out of having the only mag at the local field.
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