What does AGD see as there "new" customer

[shartley]

[BigEvil]

He plays well, and honorably.

Its real tough to market honor these days....


I have been playing more and more scenario games and there are a surprising number of mags out there.

There are definate advantages to them over tippmans, especially with the lvl10. The downside is that they are not as mil-slim upgradable. Even the Tacs. Now if you were able to just slap on stocks and m16 style foregrips as easily as you can with an A5 or M98 then you would probably be able to open up a larger chunk of that market.

[neppo1345]

SP-8.. I have been poisioned against smartparts by propaganda
Autocockers - bad reputation

Ughh. Honestly the worst reason why someone could buy a gun. You have to get out and shoot them. It's the same reason why the mag began it's decline; they were labeled as "paint blenders" AGD did EVERYTHING to try and get rid of the moniker to the general player.

The biggest way I've found to bring new users to the mag is LET THEM SHOOT ONE.

After buying my minimag and shortly thereafter building my E-mag:

1. Our field owner bought three mags
-Two minimags (For his kids), and one Warp Right E-Tac (for himself).

2. My friend went out and bought a classic.

They shot the thing, realized how much of a tac-driver it was and went out and became AGD's new custoimer base.

THAT is AGD's new customer. The people obsessed with putting paint where it's supposed to go. Obsessed with quality. Unfortuneately it's a dying breed, not everyone knows REAL quality anymore.

[Lohman446]

THAT is AGD's new customer. The people obsessed with putting paint where it's supposed to go. Obsessed with quality. Unfortuneately it's a dying breed, not everyone knows REAL quality anymore.

So the answer is to market AGD as more accurate?

[Tac-OneFun]

most of the people at pbc have had or shoot a mag or pump gun so go agd

I know I do!

[nathanjones008]

neppo

i agree, to let people shoot a mag or try one in a game is the most effective way. that is how 3 of my friends bought mags is because they tested mine out. The only problem is in some regions geograhical boundaries of this country has never even heard of a mag ( or a certian mag, emag) so when they are interested in trying one out its complicated because proshops do not carry a mag neither do their paintball pals have one, therefore they make another selection. its not like you can go to any proshop anymore and see mags on the wall. at least where i am from.


I am very interested in a emag , many on this websight told me to try one out before i buy one, but no one has one who lives close to me. i do not know anyone who ownes a emag.

[JimmyBeam]

You cant market or re-introduce something that hasn't had a technology upgrade in almost a decade.

The one thing I hear about when mags are brought up is efficiency....every single time. Sure, I hear reliable, great looking, consistant....but it still an air hog. Hell I would pick up another one in a heartbeat if someone could figure out how to make the damn thing more efficient. If Im heading to the mountains or woods, the last thing I want to do is have to run back to refill every couple of pods.

I mean cmon people, its 2007. Even low end markers are getting 1000+ shots off a fill. Theres new technology out there, use it. And your lvl 10? Well eyes are pretty much the standard now as well.

AGD markers are vintage. And only used now by collectors and die hard fans. I mean, how long do you think a company can go without any form of new devolopements in their technology?


This subject was a hot topic when I left here over a year ago. And well its the same thing again. No new arguments, no new technology, just people holding on to something hoping for a comeback. Not going to happen.

[BigEvil]

After using both eyes and lvl10 (both seperately and in conjunction with each) extensively for along time now I can honestly say that I prefer the lvl10. (although I don't knock eye sensors). My emags will shoot flawlessly on lvl10 alone up to 20 bps(and over when I can get them to shoot that fast).

If they were to market towards a particular group or demographic, then just take a look around and see what the DIY'ers are doing. Aim product towards that. Also, go back after the scenario group hard with a new approach.

[SCpoloRicker]

I work for a marketing agency, so I'm really getting a kick out of a lot of these replies...

/No, SRSLY

[emumikey]

AGD will have no new customers. We are the last of a dying breed my friends. Our current generation will be the last generation of mag owners. How many people on here have a bought a new mag from AGD in the past year? How many people are even on this forum? Rest your sleepy heads, it will all be over soon. I am still not giving up though, actually in the process of buying my first brand new mag!

The only ones who can change the future is AGD. New products, marketing, etc. is the only thing that will save this company.

Imagine of Ford still had '89 Escorts on the lot. Sure, they were a great little car, but nobody in their right mind would pay full retail for one today.

[JimmyBeam]

Its sad what paintball has become. Kids today feel they need to shoot the new hottness this week in order to compete. Now don't get me wrong, these new markers are really nice. But just look at the Nation's BST forums. OMG I cant shoot that...its an 06, they suck compared to the 07. When in reality they don't. Its just the cool thing to do, becasuse we all know its not how you play, but how you look that really matters....... /sarcasm

What can mags offer these players.....not much really. However, there is a definite increase in pump popularity. Mags make the perfect pump gun. SImplicity and sexiness all in one. And go ahead and put one together, Im sure you can sell it for 700+. It can become the new flavor of the week again

[SpitFire1299]

People that buy ions.

[Paint-Fool]

i agree, to let people shoot a mag or try one in a game is the most effective way. that is how 3 of my friends bought mags is because they tested mine out. The only problem is in some regions geograhical boundaries of this country has never even heard of a mag ( or a certian mag, emag) so when they are interested in trying one out its complicated because proshops do not carry a mag neither do their paintball pals have one, therefore they make another selection. its not like you can go to any proshop anymore and see mags on the wall. at least where i am from.


I am very interested in a emag , many on this websight told me to try one out before i buy one, but no one has one who lives close to me. i do not know anyone who ownes a emag.

I own an e-mag and live in Georgia. Depending on where you're at we might could work something out so you could try it.

[emumikey]

I own an e-mag and live in Georgia. Depending on where you're at we might could work something out so you could try it.

only on AO

[Lohman446]

A lot of people are telling me why a mag is better, and that can be an entire different thread...

Ask SP who buys an Ion. I can nearly promise you they have a thought out and considered answer about not only who there target audience is but who will buy one.