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  • Chronobreak
    Rec Poster
    • Mar 2003
    • 5055

    #61
    Originally posted by kruger
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    Well, I am not sure that AGD HAS a marketing target. Do they even advertise anymore? Very rarely do I even see an ad for automags. Is the marketing strategy "no marketing at all"?

    well if i recall there was mention that agd had somone "new" "incharge of marketing"

    then the homepage went to the tac-one, that is all i have seen so far personaly.

    so..they are targeting to somone who wants a bunch of scopes and sights on the gun, and prefers a warp feed, or q-laoder(specops advertising)


    I have no clue what the marketing target is, but i feel it should be the rec ballers gun of choice. easy maintenance, can sit for long periods,reliable,consistent,good speed for recball.

    I really think AGD just doesnt care. they have stated pretty much they are content with where they are and dont plan on making a position change anytime soon with any major product releases.

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    • RogueFactor
      Registered User
      • Dec 2001
      • 633

      #62
      Originally posted by peewee
      What you are failing to see is that some people are wired differently than yourself.
      I know exactly where Rogue is coming from.
      Allot more are being re-wired too

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      • emumikey
        Registered User
        • May 2002
        • 434

        #63
        Originally posted by Chronobreak
        I have no clue what the marketing target is, but i feel it should be the rec ballers gun of choice. easy maintenance, can sit for long periods,reliable,consistent,good speed for recball.
        I think the price is too high personally. Of course it is worth every penny to some. But most would rather spend less on a marker that they only play periodically with.

        If you only want to spend $200 on a marker, you are out of the market for a mag right off the bat, but you can step right into an Ion or Tippy.

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        • StygShore
          Waterford, MI

          • Aug 2002
          • 2854

          #64
          strategy is...

          profit from left over inventory :)


          Marketing consists of word of mouth from AO members infiltrating other forums.

          There also may be some marketing every so often when one of the AGD products shows up in reviews in a slow news month for the paintball magazines.

          The "new" upgrades and 3rd party stuff that is out for the mags will keep enough people coming back, trying and buying for a few years probably. I mean the Level X, ULT, and ULE stuff has been around for what... 3-4+ years and people are just finding out about it?

          Several times a year I have someone show up to the field and I ask if they have level 10, and they look at me funny and say - "huh, oh no this is an Automag" thinking I am asking them if they have some fancy new gun they have never heard of. Months later the person usually shows up with a lvl 10 in their old mag.



          Styg
          Sometimes It's Good to be EVIL

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          • nathanjones008
            Magpride008
            • Nov 2006
            • 515

            #65
            gone

            i am not spreading rumors, just wondering.Since tom has been gone there hasnt been much of anything new right? So is there really no hope for the future?


            thanks

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            • emumikey
              Registered User
              • May 2002
              • 434

              #66
              Originally posted by nathanjones008
              i am not spreading rumors, just wondering.Since tom has been gone there hasnt been much of anything new right? So is there really no hope for the future?


              thanks

              Good question. I suppose the answer is in the valve. Are valves still made? If so, then the third parties and DIYers will take care of the rest.

              If they have stopped making valves, then the mag will eventually die.

              ...although some will claim that the valve will last forever...

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              • REDRT
                Mags, Y use anything else
                • Apr 2004
                • 1854

                #67
                Originally posted by nathanjones008
                i am not spreading rumors, just wondering.Since tom has been gone there hasnt been much of anything new right? So is there really no hope for the future?


                thanks
                It was going down hill while Tom was still there.

                Not the hope we long for

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                • bryceeden
                  www.vernalpaintball.com
                  • Dec 2002
                  • 1076

                  #68
                  Originally posted by Tac-OneFun
                  Don't know if i understand the question. I can't imagine why anyone would just buy a marker without researching it unless they are little kiddies who wanna get what their friend has because it shoots lots of paint.

                  You would be surprised, I would say atleast 40% of my sales are on the spot with no research at all beond asking me if its a good marker.

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                  • Lohman446
                    Useful posts: 7
                    • Jun 2003
                    • 9315

                    #69
                    Originally posted by bryceeden
                    You would be surprised, I would say atleast 40% of my sales are on the spot with no research at all beond asking me if its a good marker.
                    Generally how I buy my markers... well to a degree. I know what is out there, I know a rough idea of how people have liked them - but the final veto option goes to the store owner. If he tells me he does not like it, or thinks this one is better than another, chances are I take it. then again, my research is years of working with him, and trusting him.
                    Last edited by Lohman446; 02-07-2007, 08:09 PM.
                    "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

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                    • Aggravated Assault
                      AGD since 1996
                      • Nov 2004
                      • 75

                      #70
                      Don't know if I am alone on this, but here is how I see AGD's "new" customer base....
                      Originally posted by RogueFactor
                      They dont follow the trends, for the sake of it. They arent necessarily "leaders", but they arent "followers" either. Independent thinkers, if you will.
                      Originally posted by neppo1345
                      Obsessed with quality.
                      Originally posted by shartley
                      the same ones who still use and love other types of markers...
                      Originally posted by JimmyBeam
                      AGD markers are vintage
                      Originally posted by flashgordon
                      I saw a custom mag by Pointm@n, chrome with yellow details. I rushed out and bought a mag as soon as I could.
                      I think a lot of us who love mags are like gearheads and old car enthusiasts. We're independent. We're tinkerers. "Vintage" isnt a bad word to us. Mags are like muscle cars: Done right they will challange anything out there and can be as individual as someones Nova, Charger, or GTO. Thats my image of the automag.

                      Powerful. Solid. Sexy.

                      I go to the World of Wheels almost every year. Every year people keep showing up with their cars and make new converts...Insuring there will always be enthusiasts, gearheads and muscle cars. We're the same way. It may be new era, but Mag's aren't going anywhere and neither is its customer base. People are still playing with Mags, pimping them out, showing them off, and making new converts.

                      Like my Father-in-law's 68' Dega, they aren't for everybody.

                      But you know what?
                      I like it that way.
                      Last edited by Aggravated Assault; 02-08-2007, 07:15 AM.

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                      • JimmyBeam
                        Registered User
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 1105

                        #71
                        if I were Rogue, I would milk this new popularity in pumps


                        theres lots of pump vids out on youtube. pretty cool ****

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                        • hitech
                          Not a shedder of vortices
                          • Nov 2001
                          • 4775

                          #72
                          Originally posted by Lohman446
                          Ask SP who buys an Ion. I can nearly promise you they have a thought out and considered answer about not only who there target audience is but who will buy one.
                          Possibly (I've never asked, I don't even know how to ask them), but you are not asking AGD. You are asking members of a forum. Many of those who replied are 'mag owners. So, you are finding out why THEY bought a 'mag.

                          Basically, you are asking the question of the wrong people. We don't have enough information to answer.



                          Hey Hitech your starting to sound like me! - AGD
                          Hitech is the man.... :eek: - Blennidae
                          The only Hitech Lubricant

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                          • REDRT
                            Mags, Y use anything else
                            • Apr 2004
                            • 1854

                            #73
                            Originally posted by hitech
                            Possibly (I've never asked, I don't even know how to ask them), but you are not asking AGD. You are asking members of a forum. Many of those who replied are 'mag owners. So, you are finding out why THEY bought a 'mag.

                            Basically, you are asking the question of the wrong people. We don't have enough information to answer.

                            That seems pretty reasonable to me.

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                            • paintball_fiend
                              Registered User
                              • May 2004
                              • 95

                              #74
                              probably woodsball and scenario but they aren't as popular there as many other companies anymore

                              If they could work there way back into tourney ball new players will look at those pro teams and say that gun rocks i want one just like that.
                              Last edited by paintball_fiend; 02-10-2007, 02:01 PM.

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                              • Sumthinwicked
                                team id psycho AO-CT
                                • Nov 2005
                                • 4292

                                #75
                                lighter ,faster ,smaller , and cheaper these are what this sport demands their are the hardcores that like me love this company.... i saw someone put out a few FAKE parts for agd and havnt been very much impressed so far, minus the longbow i think if ao makes more items like that, new additions to help keep it running this company would live forever..... it would be great if there were a few items comming out youd have my vote ! everything i have owned by adg has been great hell i have a elcipse set on my pumped smartmag with ule body now mind you these arent all agd parts but they were at least made with agd specs so i forgave them LOL so i have a nice mag that will last me forever :P just my 2 cents
                                Last edited by Sumthinwicked; 02-11-2007, 03:44 AM.

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