Electro-Pneumatic Kit VIDEO!!!!

[Dawg047]

Ok, so I have my Pneu mag frame right now setup real nice. Is there anyway you can sell just the noid and board combo so that I can just take out my MSV-2 and slide in the board/solenoid combo? My ram is in there nicely with some set screws and my LPR is mounted nicely, I just need an electro swap out. Is this possible or is this more complicated than I am saying?

Is it possible for a kit for the Pneumags already out there and then a full kit for people who have not tried pneumags yet? Just wndering, because I like my Pneumag, but, that video makes me want to re-consider.

[p8ntbal4me]

Ok, so I have my Pneu mag frame right now setup real nice. Is there anyway you can sell just the noid and board combo so that I can just take out my MSV-2 and slide in the board/solenoid combo? My ram is in there nicely with some set screws and my LPR is mounted nicely, I just need an electro swap out. Is this possible or is this more complicated than I am saying?

Is it possible for a kit for the Pneumags already out there and then a full kit for people who have not tried pneumags yet? Just wndering, because I like my Pneumag, but, that video makes me want to re-consider.

If you like your pneumag,.. Id stick with that. The EP conversion CAN be just that simple but it will be based on a few things in which I have found to decide how much it costs and how complicated you have to get with it in order to work.

If you want to buy a board from me, get a solenoid from ASP, and do it yourself, then that is one solution.

Im going to be offering the conversion as soon as i can figure out a milling cost for a complete package deal. That way,.. users will know up front what the cost is going to be BEFORE they start changing their markers around.

There is not going to be just one pre-wired setup, that can be placed into every single frame. Not all frames are the same angle, some have alot of room, some need more milling to fit the internals, some cant get the larger solenoid to fit inside, some needs miling for the LPR hose,.. etc. There are just FAR too many variations. Each frame will be different, and each user will want something different.

As for the question about the solenoid,... I dont know if Im going to sell them as a single piece just yet. ASP already sells solenoids, and I would venture to say that if you wanted an immediate replacement, that would be the place to go. If it was a custom solenoid like mine is,.. then you would only be able to get it from me if you purchased an install.

The question you asked about the converting of a pneumag for users that already HAVE one,.... it is possible. The EP conversion will contain a full install of the MPA-3 ram done by Cyberave68. This ram will be purchased from him as well as installed by him. So rest assured that when the ram is installed, its being done by someone who knows what they are doing.

Can I convert an existing pneumag? I would assume so. There are going to be some restrictions on those cases though,... and I need to work with the user to let them fully understand what their specific needs for an install will detail. More to come on that.......

The conversion isnt hard at all,... some time over a weekend with a soldering gun & some heat shrink tubing will complete the install. Im going to be offering the service for those that do not want to bother with the installation on their own.

I put a thread up in the dealers section about buying boards from myself. If you think an EP conversion is the way you want to go & you have some time, post in the thread for to gain some interest.

~ P8nt

[p8ntbal4me]

I can already see that a few guys are looking into this.

So, before you do,... lets start with the basics.

Go get your frame that your thinking about converting to an EP.

Now go get a 9volt battery.

Place the 9volt battery in the frame,..... look at it,.. and tell me,.. do you have the room RIGHT now to convert this frame? Be honest.

I cant stress enough that this conversion is based on how you play in a days worth of paintball will determine how much milling is going to be involved with the install.

Heres an good example of what I mean with a popular frame:

The Logic UMF. Can fit the 18bps EP conversion with as little milling as possible.
The milling required would be a place for the membrane pad, a hole for the LED, and some mounting for the trigger switch. That is the minimum for THIS frame.

The Logic UMF. Can not fit the 26+bps EP conversion without internal milling. The warp feed switch mounting plate on the inside would have to be milled off completely, the top needs to be channeled out more for the larger noid, etc. More milling, more time, more cost.

Thats just one frame,.... your type of install changes every time to change the frame or want a different version of the install.

~ P8nt

[wetwrks]

I have 2 of the StormWalks waiting for EP kits. Keep me updated.

[mostpeople]

I have an airwalk waiting for your conversion

[darqueMeye]

ive noticed you are using a 25g switch in your kit. Whats the difference between that and the 80g switch? I have the 80g in my hyperframe (installed by luke) and it really made the trigger lighter.

[darqueMeye]

ive noticed you are using a 25g switch in your kit. Whats the difference between that and the 80g switch? I have the 80g in my hyperframe (installed by luke) and it really made the trigger lighter.

nevermind i answered my own question. i checked my left over parts. my hyperframe had a 25g switch in it. so i do know the difference.

[SummaryJudgement]

HEY P8NT!
Can your kits just drop-in into a Stormwalk frame? I recently got one and am looking to pneumag it or something. I don't have any tools, and can't do any drilling of any sorts without an investment of some kind. Do you have any that drop-in? Can I send you mine when I have time to do your magic to it? I'm still at work, exhausted, and kind of drunk, so forgive me if I am not up-to-date on your progress or anything else.

It's taken me forever to spell-check my post too, so I don't look like an idiot.............

[wetwrks]

HEY P8NT!
Can your kits just drop-in into a Stormwalk frame? I recently got one and am looking to pneumag it or something. I don't have any tools, and can't do any drilling of any sorts without an investment of some kind. Do you have any that drop-in? Can I send you mine when I have time to do your magic to it? I'm still at work, exhausted, and kind of drunk, so forgive me if I am not up-to-date on your progress or anything else.

It's taken me forever to spell-check my post too, so I don't look like an idiot.............

SJ, yah this is for the StormWalk (and others too) but sounds like you have to do a bit of dremmel/milling type work to the frame. Sounds like he is setting up to do installs if you want to send it to him or he will sell the kit if you want to do it yourself.

[p8ntbal4me]

You have to do some milling to every frame,.. but the storm walk/air walk are the 2 that require the least amount.

Im still working on the diagrams for the milling to see what works best for all frames.

Im also testing the HES right now with the UTB.

The optical triggers are taking a back burner for now until I get a schematic from Scenario Dreams.


The question about the 80gram trigger switch in the hyperframe,... I install my own switches for this conversion. I have 25gram and 50 gram pull offered on the triggers.

These switches do work best with Luke's hyperframe triggers with the adjustable trigger set point screw. On semi-auto, I can grab 15bps without fail.

[p8ntbal4me]

HEY P8NT!
Can your kits just drop-in into a Stormwalk frame? I recently got one and am looking to pneumag it or something. I don't have any tools, and can't do any drilling of any sorts without an investment of some kind. Do you have any that drop-in? Can I send you mine when I have time to do your magic to it? I'm still at work, exhausted, and kind of drunk, so forgive me if I am not up-to-date on your progress or anything else.

It's taken me forever to spell-check my post too, so I don't look like an idiot.............

Cyberave68 will be doing the ram installs,.. its built into the price for the conersion.

I have my original storm walk here, Ive been using it to take measurements off of for the diagrams. For the total sleeper setup,... this is the best way to go.

The V1 & V2 Airwalks also work well,.. some milling is required. But it is minimal.

Someone asked about the intelli-frame conversion: It requires alot of miling. Check out Lukes home page of the ULE milling he does on the frame. Just looking at it,... it will require at the least the milling he does. I dont have a frame milled by him to tell you straight forward, but judging by the pictures,... you will need all the room you can get.

~ P8nt

[chafnerjr]

v2 AirWalk needs to learn how to dance

My v2 Airwalk might be interested in your kit. I've already talked to cyberave68 about doing the milling and kit install... what would be the difference? Sounds like fun... keep us posted if you think your going to get this done any time soon.

[p8ntbal4me]

My v2 Airwalk might be interested in your kit. I've already talked to cyberave68 about doing the milling and kit install... what would be the difference? Sounds like fun... keep us posted if you think your going to get this done any time soon.

Well as far as Cyberave68 goes,... he takes care of the slight work needed to the outside of the MPA-3 ram he uses,... so no milling for his work is needed.

On the end that I will be working on,.. there is some milling.

Say you want to have the LPR come off the front of the ASA,... you need a hose channel milled into the trigger frame and maybe some milling done to the rail if you want to completely hide the hose.

You may need holes drilled into the body for eyes as well as some milling done to the rail.

It all depends on the needs of the user,... not all of you are going to want the same thing.

If you want to get an Pneumag install done by Cyberave68,.. and then have me convert it later on to an EP,... you can do that. Just make sure you can show me he did the work to your frame (its a matter of pricing and reliability issues on my end).

Im all set to do the electronics installs,.. its the milling thats holding me up. I have to design the way I want the milling to work for ALL frames,.. and that takes alot of time. Time that I just dont have right now. This weekend I will have the time to look at it.

Im getting close guys,... just keep asking questions,... posting opinions,.... dont let me slack on this! Everyone needs a swift kick to the butt every now and then.

~ P8nt

[p8ntbal4me]

** UPDATE **

I finished the milling diagrams today for both the Logic UMF & AGD Intelli-frame.

~ P8nt

[wetwrks]

So, what's the news?