G-Force to release pneumatic frames for the Mags

[TwilightG]

Anyone hear of an update at all? I know that the days are going by slowly but I think it's been 2 weeks since the last official update.

[MagModderMatt]

Not even on there site to buy anymore..

They have a spot, a picture, a video but no sale price anymore, no way to do anything but look at it and hope.. I saw this a year ago, it had a price tag and they were takin orders, now. They got pic with a tac 1 rail and the frame ,video but no price..
looks like they are not doin this nemore

[jade_monkey07]

They have a spot, a picture, a video but no sale price anymore, no way to do anything but look at it and hope.. I saw this a year ago, it had a price tag and they were takin orders, now. They got pic with a tac 1 rail and the frame ,video but no price..
looks like they are not doin this nemore

once this run of frames is finally in our hands they wont be making more. Garf has said this himself. I think the project was more then he expected, and from the sounds of it hes the only one putting together the 100 frames...I will respect the man to no end once this project is done. But seeing how all iv seen are a few mb of movies and a 430$ creditcard bill, Im not singing any praises just yet

[Papa_Smurf]

If anyone is interested in selling/trading a spot, please PM me.



-Bennett

[MagModderMatt]

So it was a scam job?! I was about to go all in

damn guys.. Im sorry I had know idea that it was this bad, I was just at there sight and there are pics,videos. But now no price tag or even a way to "buy it" They took your money and then backed out now that is just criminal, Im glad I didnt go in, Im sorry you goys did, Press charges and it may add up to the point to be a major felony, We arent the type to sue people, but this is an exception! how dare they!!
Sorry to all of you who payed ofr somthing that never came,
"May The scammers butt grow together" forming nothing but a hole(no cheeks!)

Official "I want my frame list"

This list represents those willing to do whatever it takes to either get their frame or get their money back.

Once chronobreak has spoken with his lawyer I will pm everybody on this list to obtain necessary information to proceed. I assume real names, phone number, emails will be needed.

5 names per line for easy pm'ing

1.Chronobreak;Warbeak2099;smoothice;jade_monkey07; jaywmustang
2.sarge40;Andrew Cunje;

[Smoothice]

damn guys.. Im sorry I had know idea that it was this bad, I was just at there sight and there are pics,videos. But now no price tag or even a way to "buy it" They took your money and then backed out now that is just criminal, Im glad I didnt go in, Im sorry you goys did, Press charges and it may add up to the point to be a major felony, We arent the type to sue people, but this is an exception! how dare they!!
Sorry to all of you who payed ofr somthing that never came,
"May The scammers butt grow together" forming nothing but *******(no cheeks!)

:rofl:

I edited your post for you. I suggest you do the same. To be fair they CLAIM they are working to get these out to us. So we have not officially been scammed yet. But yes it is not a pretty situation.

[Andrew Cunje]

So i spoke to Garf last night for about an hour to determine what the status of the frames are.

As you can imagine they are still in progress, since they aren't in you hands. However the things holding the frame back to date are trigger geometry(several designs) and the actuator used(to be matched to this trigger design). The frames have not been annodized because once they are anno'd no additional milling and drilling can be done without having to re anno them. With that in mind, this is because of the above two delays. Once selected the frames will be drilled to accept these designs. As many of you have said to him, just choose one, he is not willing to do that to a product he has to warrant for a year. Also after he chooses a platform he test the hell out of it to see how they break in...thengs like to shift wear down slightly etc in all frames.

Safety update: a sear stop safety comprimised the integrity of hte sear itself...a trigger safety is not possible with teh short trigger pull his frame delivers....

All of the above DOESN'T MEAN that the frames will take another year, they are all on the last step of the way to being done.

Delivery time frame: He can't predict set backs such as the above, there for his intentions are to have them to us BY JUNE's end. This isnt a hard date just his INTENTIONS....

Not so frequesnt UPDATES....NOW WILL BE MORE FREQUENT: As i discussed with Garf, I will be getting weekly updates on the progress of the frame. DO NOT PM ME FOR THE STATUS...i will POST IT HERE. I will let you all know all the nitty gritty when i find it out.

LPR Status, to to size limitations of the inside of the frame his newest design will not fit so getting 15-25 psi is out the door, the latest design is slightly wider then the frame and will come with custom grips which are milled out on the inside of the grip to allow the grips to seat flush to the frame....what does this mean for custom grips? Well...you will just have to shave some rubber if you want to put on another grip....just the way it is...

Remember some of the parts for this frame had to be made out fo his shop, springs fasteners etc, all of this is part of the reason the frames have been delayed...not just his work......



Post any other questions you want answered in the forum...and ill organized them with next weeks update.

hopefully this helps to ease all of your minds that he hasn't devil's denned us...but lets try not to flame or bash or call him and cuss over the phone at him like many of you have....cause let's be honest...that just makes you look childish and doesnt really make him want to hurry up or even talk to you period................

[TwilightG]

Thanks for the update. I'm glad that you were able to get that info for us. I really wish we had similar updates all along (from G-Force, of course)

As a few others have already said, I have no doubts that I will eventually get this frame. I do not see this as a scam or anything of the sort... In my opinion (and not based on any conversations or insider info), I probably expect to see this by the end of summer/early fall.
Personally, I can and will just keep waiting and I'm glad that he's trying manufacture these to a high standard but I also understand and can relate to everyone's frustration.

It's painfully obvious that not enough R&D was in place prior to taking orders but to keep hearing a different story every time is tiring.
Back in February we were told that they were ready to be annoed and even now in June we're still hearing about design issues.
I'd rather get the honest truth instead of false hopes.

[Chronobreak]

uhg

weird how we are stillg etting different stories

two weeks ago when i spoke to him he said theyd be shipping out this week...as they were essentialy done with all but the lpr and the manual.

screw garf and his lying canadian ***

sjust wanted you all to know,that were stillg etting the same BS as always

[warbeak2099]

As you can imagine they are still in progress, since they aren't in you hands. However the things holding the frame back to date are trigger geometry(several designs) and the actuator used(to be matched to this trigger design). The frames have not been annodized because once they are anno'd no additional milling and drilling can be done without having to re anno them. With that in mind, this is because of the above two delays. Once selected the frames will be drilled to accept these designs. As many of you have said to him, just choose one, he is not willing to do that to a product he has to warrant for a year. Also after he chooses a platform he test the hell out of it to see how they break in...thengs like to shift wear down slightly etc in all frames.

This is the same explanation I got in April...

[Danterwhoo]

Will this ever End !!!!!

[MANN]

this is hilarious. going to make my own....

[Andrew Cunje]

Well we know that its the same explanation...but at least he is going to give us weekly updates on progress through me...better than nothing like before...which requires actual progress otherwise...it will look very bad...and at that point...we can be like wtfm8

This is the same explanation I got in April...

[warbeak2099]

Are these weekly updates going to be via email?

[Warwitch]

this is hilarious. going to make my own....

Agreed. Every couple weeks I get to check in and get a good laugh though. I genuinely feel for every one that got taken on this. Its long past "put up or shut up" time.


And Garf can say all he wants; The road to Hell is paved with good intentions.


Epic fail.