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  • doc_Zox
    Team Dead by Dawn
    • Jun 2003
    • 723

    #271


    so whats the rear hole fer?

    heres an idea

    couldn't you eliminate the complexity of the star locator by using locator pins like on the AKA trays?

    then you could make the breech symmetrical and flip it over to run it left vs right...

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    • MANN
      I am in TN. GO VOLS.
      • Apr 2006
      • 4266

      #272
      Originally posted by doc_Zox


      so whats the rear hole fer?

      heres an idea

      couldn't you eliminate the complexity of the star locator by using locator pins like on the AKA trays?

      then you could make the breech symmetrical and flip it over to run it left vs right...
      The hole is in all of their bodies. If you flip the breech the detent will be too too far back on one of the flips.

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      • LK-13
        Confused on purpose!
        • Dec 2006
        • 584

        #273
        Originally posted by Tracy_ptp






        People of the AO,
        you see those 4 alignment holes in the body base and front block,
        add a pin through 1 or more of these holes and nothing will twist or rotate
        no matter how hard someone cranks on the ASA connecting bolt.
        at least not with out breaking something. that would be your fault not PTP's.

        also note the indexing ring on the front of the breach block.
        the block is indexed in the drawing to rotate in 45 degree increments.
        so vertical, 45* & 90* is all there in the design.
        can't do it on the fly; but why would you want your hopper turning flopper?
        no hoppin' flopper from PTP! or Floppin' Hopper for that matter... :rofl:
        i think i need another drink... :spit_take
        Last edited by LK-13; 01-23-2009, 06:57 PM.

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        • C_losjoker
          Puro Tico
          • May 2008
          • 1121

          #274
          Originally posted by Tracy_ptp
          Everyone has to understand that when we change something on the design it also changes the dynamics of the body which can make something else change. We are making adjustments to make sure it fits with the things you want, but you have to understand we can only do so much and guarantee a quality product. Which we wont put out unless we feel it is top notch. This is MY project for you....Lets not mess it up. I have more for you, but unless this is successful no one is going to take me seriously.
          You go girl, lay down the law. I think everyone forgets that you dont really need to make this project, that this is not your main source of business and im sure you are not making a killer profit off them. From the sounds of it, specially for you Tracy this started as a fun side project from the norm. You and Forrest also dont need to find solutions for any of the so called "problems". PTP could have come out and say this is the body take it or leave it. but been PTP and the pride you guys take in costumer service. You are trying to please everyone all the time, well you know what they say about that.

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          • cougar20th
            Registered User

            • Sep 2002
            • 2330

            #275
            Wow those renderings explain alot about the amount of thought that went into this. There are alot of great ideas on the body. Great work.

            I would be getting one if I could afford it.

            My I make a suggestion to look into. On the base body where the front block would mount to there the breech sits over. It may be benifical to add a raduis in the sharp corner to eliminate possible stress points. But that small addition may complicate the parts far more than it is worth.
            Originally posted by dano_____
            I keep forgetting to not feed my mags after midnight so they seem to multiply regularly.

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            • Watcher
              aka CavDragoneb12
              • Apr 2008
              • 867

              #276
              Originally posted by C_losjoker
              You go girl, lay down the law. I think everyone forgets that you dont really need to make this project, that this is not your main source of business and im sure you are not making a killer profit off them. From the sounds of it, specially for you Tracy this started as a fun side project from the norm. You and Forrest also dont need to find solutions for any of the so called "problems". PTP could have come out and say this is the body take it or leave it. but been PTP and the pride you guys take in costumer service. You are trying to please everyone all the time, well you know what they say about that.

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              • dark blade
                I<3AGD|WGP|WDP|APS|CCI|CCM
                • Apr 2008
                • 733

                #277
                i want to appologize for any stress i may have brought upon ptp...

                as long as i can use it with my emag and the top of the battery will be covered... i will be very content

                i stand by what this company makes and love the fact that they are being kind enough to do something for the people instead of having the people do something for them by just purchasing their things and making them money

                I'm sorry tracy
                I'm sorry Forest
                I'm sorry Russell.

                I'm sorry PTP

                but lets drink to a new revolutionary creation
                and bow down to one of the greatest companies of all time in my opinion

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                • doc_Zox
                  Team Dead by Dawn
                  • Jun 2003
                  • 723

                  #278
                  Originally posted by MANN
                  The hole is in all of their bodies. If you flip the breech the detent will be too too far back on one of the flips.
                  but 2 detent holes on one side and you could ace one, detent the other...

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                  • dark blade
                    I<3AGD|WGP|WDP|APS|CCI|CCM
                    • Apr 2008
                    • 733

                    #279
                    that is very true... however, that would only allow use of ACE when in warp mode.

                    What about when in vert feed configuration?

                    i think that we should just wait to see if they can countersink the detent so that it is possible to have it rotate a full 180* from left to right

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                    • vikking_1
                      Registered User
                      • Mar 2006
                      • 131

                      #280
                      Originally posted by Forest_ptp
                      We will be doing away with the spacer, but everything else will still line up. We are working on the battery pack cover.
                      thats what I wanted to hear. now if the battery pack problem can be worked out, ill most likely jump on getting one of these asap.

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                      • Forest_ptp
                        Registered User
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 137

                        #281
                        Originally posted by LK-13
                        People of the AO,
                        you see those 4 alignment holes in the body base and front block,
                        add a pin through 1 or more of these holes and nothing will twist or rotate
                        no matter how hard someone cranks on the ASA connecting bolt.
                        at least not with out breaking something. that would be your fault not PTP's.

                        also note the indexing ring on the front of the breach block.
                        the block is indexed in the drawing to rotate in 45 degree increments.
                        so vertical, 45* & 90* is all there in the design.
                        can't do it on the fly; but why would you want your hopper turning flopper?
                        no hoppin' flopper from PTP! or Floppin' Hopper for that matter... :rofl:
                        i think i need another drink... :spit_take
                        Thank you for covering the indexing issue - absolutely hit it on the head!

                        We'll take care of the ASA as well.

                        And I DEFINITELY need another drink...

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                        • dark blade
                          I<3AGD|WGP|WDP|APS|CCI|CCM
                          • Apr 2008
                          • 733

                          #282
                          serial number poll is posted in the paintball talk section... to make life easier about what should be done with the serial number issue just go vote

                          it will help instead of having 400 posts of what people think should be done.

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                          • Chris Nearchos
                            Aerospace Engineer Student
                            • Aug 2004
                            • 1910

                            #283
                            Originally posted by dark blade
                            that is very true... however, that would only allow use of ACE when in warp mode.

                            What about when in vert feed configuration?

                            i think that we should just wait to see if they can countersink the detent so that it is possible to have it rotate a full 180* from left to right


                            If i would have my way, i would suggest ptp to go with 2 detents on the breech. (have a small channel running from right to left under the breech for the detents to move through when turning the breech). Two detents would also allow for a much easier setup of break-beam eyes in the end while keeping the breech area symmetrical. Also gives a backup detent incase one gets blown apart during a game.


                            now as for the ace eye setup, the detents wont have any effect on the ACE placment. the ACE eye would just sit at the bottome of the breech ( when in vert position). so when its warp left.....the ACE eye is on the right side. and vise-versa.


                            again, these are just ideas of what i would do if given the choice. so please dont take this post wrong.
                            -Chris
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                            • Forest_ptp
                              Registered User
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 137

                              #284
                              Originally posted by MANN
                              The hole is in all of their bodies. If you flip the breech the detent will be too too far back on one of the flips.
                              The rear hole is a "legacy" - anyone remember what it's for?

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                              • Engus
                                PTP's favorite AO'er
                                • Jul 2007
                                • 414

                                #285
                                Originally posted by Forest_ptp
                                The rear hole is a "legacy" - anyone remember what it's for?

                                I know am/mm rails had 2 holes for a backbottle, but the one hole has me stumped.

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