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  • Forest_ptp
    Registered User
    • Jan 2009
    • 137

    #286
    Originally posted by Chris Nearchos
    If i would have my way, i would suggest ptp to go with 2 detents on the breech. (have a small channel running from right to left under the breech for the detents to move through when turning the breech). Two detents would also allow for a much easier setup of break-beam eyes in the end while keeping the breech area symmetrical. Also gives a backup detent incase one gets blown apart during a game.


    now as for the ace eye setup, the detents wont have any effect on the ACE placment. the ACE eye would just sit at the bottome of the breech ( when in vert position). so when its warp left.....the ACE eye is on the right side. and vise-versa.


    again, these are just ideas of what i would do if given the choice. so please dont take this post wrong.
    -Chris
    Russell is working to squeeze the detent(s) in a little tighter. If we can get the clearance you'll have two detents and Warp Right to boot. No guarantee, but trying..

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    • Chris Nearchos
      Aerospace Engineer Student
      • Aug 2004
      • 1910

      #287
      Originally posted by Forest_ptp
      Russell is working to squeeze the detent(s) in a little tighter. If we can get the clearance you'll have two detents and Warp Right to boot. No guarantee, but trying..

      thats pretty cool. i bet he is trying to pulling magical numbers out of the air so to say....lol. but yea, thats going to be tough on him...it already appears to be pretty darn tight. but it would be very nice to get 2 in the end. but if that cant happen. could always make two detent holes. have a detet on the open side...and a thin cover/plug for the hole that is between the breech and body. thats only if you cant get some clearence for the second detent in warp setup.

      -Chris
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      • Uranus633
        Registered User
        • Oct 2003
        • 49

        #288
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        • Forest_ptp
          Registered User
          • Jan 2009
          • 137

          #289
          Originally posted by Engus
          I know am/mm rails had 2 holes for a backbottle, but the one hole has me stumped.
          Engus - You are totally on top of it. When it was originally engineered back in '93-ish we worked from Airgun drawings and only had room for one hole. Not knowing if we would actually need it at some point or not we left it in the body. As it turned out we didn't, but we kept it in the design "just in case". I'm still thinking that we can do a one screw (+ pinned) back bottle ASA. With a 13/3000 HPA tank and a 4" barrel...

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          • Forest_ptp
            Registered User
            • Jan 2009
            • 137

            #290
            Originally posted by Chris Nearchos
            thats pretty cool. i bet he is trying to pulling magical numbers out of the air so to say....lol. but yea, thats going to be tough on him...it already appears to be pretty darn tight. but it would be very nice to get 2 in the end. but if that cant happen. could always make two detent holes. have a detet on the open side...and a thin cover/plug for the hole that is between the breech and body. thats only if you cant get some clearence for the second detent in warp setup.

            -Chris
            yes - we thought of the plug as well. Just an extra part for us to make though - more cost - and less of the smooth streamlined appearance.

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            • dark blade
              I<3AGD|WGP|WDP|APS|CCI|CCM
              • Apr 2008
              • 733

              #291
              that is just screaming Sweet deal!...

              quick random weird question...

              i live in Mass-uh-chew-sets but have a second house in wells maine (which i will most likely be located in at the time)... is there any chance of coming and picking up my body in portland so i can personally thank you guys?

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              • Tracy_ptp
                Registered User
                • Jul 2005
                • 944

                #292
                Originally posted by dark blade
                that is just screaming Sweet deal!...

                quick random weird question...

                i live in Mass-uh-chew-sets but have a second house in wells maine (which i will most likely be located in at the time)... is there any chance of coming and picking up my body in portland so i can personally thank you guys?
                Anyone is more than welcome to stop by and see us.......just ask looper who saw us yesterday. We are still unpacking and trying to get organized so it is a bit of a mess, but we have lots of parts and cool things for people to see. And of course we have lots of knowledge from the last 20 years so if you happen to come by when Forest is there it is likely you will be there for awhile.........Isn't that right Looper?

                I thought it was "Mass-holes" lol just kidding

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                • Chris Nearchos
                  Aerospace Engineer Student
                  • Aug 2004
                  • 1910

                  #293
                  Originally posted by Forest_ptp
                  yes - we thought of the plug as well. Just an extra part for us to make though - more cost - and less of the smooth streamlined appearance.
                  maybe, but then that would allow you to easily switch back and forth from warp right to warp right if you didn't have enough room for a full detent on the bottom side of the breech (between the breech and body).

                  but you lady and gents know what your doing, so i will keep my mouth shut now. sorry for the late night rambling.

                  -Chris
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                  • dark blade
                    I<3AGD|WGP|WDP|APS|CCI|CCM
                    • Apr 2008
                    • 733

                    #294
                    haha m*******s and mass-uh-chew-sets are two slightly different things..

                    i am proud to BE a mass-hole, yet i am FROM mass-uh-chew-sets... and just to clarify for everyone else, the reason i spell it the way i did is because i (yes me, and i live here) cannot even spell my own state name half of the time.

                    I will surely be stopping by to pick up the body in person though, i want to thank you guys in person.
                    Last edited by dark blade; 01-23-2009, 10:38 PM. Reason: spelling

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                    • Engus
                      PTP's favorite AO'er
                      • Jul 2007
                      • 414

                      #295
                      Originally posted by Forest_ptp
                      Engus - You are totally on top of it. When it was originally engineered back in '93-ish we worked from Airgun drawings and only had room for one hole. Not knowing if we would actually need it at some point or not we left it in the body. As it turned out we didn't, but we kept it in the design "just in case". I'm still thinking that we can do a one screw (+ pinned) back bottle ASA. With a 13/3000 HPA tank and a 4" barrel...
                      you could even avoid the pin with an asa shaped like this



                      Originally posted by Forest_ptp
                      Russell is working to squeeze the detent(s) in a little tighter. If we can get the clearance you'll have two detents and Warp Right to boot. No guarantee, but trying..
                      I know angel detents have been part of the plan all along, but a different style could be fine if it adds function to a single breech. like maybe short wire detents

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                      • Forest_ptp
                        Registered User
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 137

                        #296
                        Originally posted by Chris Nearchos
                        maybe, but then that would allow you to easily switch back and forth from warp right to warp right if you didn't have enough room for a full detent on the bottom side of the breech (between the breech and body).

                        but you lady and gents know what your doing, so i will keep my mouth shut now. sorry for the late night rambling.

                        -Chris
                        No - it's a good idea Chris - exactly what we were thinking - just trying to balance everything out.

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                        • Tracy_ptp
                          Registered User
                          • Jul 2005
                          • 944

                          #297
                          Originally posted by dark blade
                          haha m*******s and mass-uh-chew-sets are two slightly different things..

                          i am proud to BE a mass-hole, yet i am FROM mass-uh-chew-sets... and just to clarify for everyone else, the reason i spell it the way i did is because i (yes me, and i live here) cannot even spell my own state name half of the time.

                          I will surely be stopping by to pick up the body in person though, i want to thank you guys in person.
                          Just so you know.....I am now known as a transplanted "Maine-iac" and of course in Florida were known as "Crackers". I was just teasing!!

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                          • LK-13
                            Confused on purpose!
                            • Dec 2006
                            • 584

                            #298
                            Originally posted by Forest_ptp
                            The rear hole is a "legacy" - anyone remember what it's for?
                            to confuse people and screw up their whole world!

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                            • ZoomZ@PTP
                              PTP Manufacturing
                              • Oct 2008
                              • 230

                              #299
                              Ok ,, you can have 90 left and 90 right and 2 ball detents ~ ~

                              I just figured it out :P

                              Done !

                              Renderings tomorrow sometime after i get the motor out of my vette ,, lol

                              BTW: I dont know how many of you guys know me but i started playing in early 86
                              and retired pro in 98 so i know how things can rattle apart and twist when there not supost to .

                              The drawings dont show it but the asa will index in one of the 4 bolt holes holding the front block in place .

                              And i think you guys should also know , this is gona be a pita to machine ,, lol
                              Last edited by ZoomZ@PTP; 01-23-2009, 11:50 PM.

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                              • Engus
                                PTP's favorite AO'er
                                • Jul 2007
                                • 414

                                #300
                                Originally posted by ZoomZ@PTP
                                Ok ,, you can have 90 left and 90 right and 2 ball detents ~ ~

                                I just figured it out :P

                                Done !

                                Renderings tomorrow sometime after i get the motor out of my vette ,, lol

                                I was thinking about it too, did you change the actual location of the detents?

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