Introducing the Micromag 2009

[TimmyJay]

Yes I may be able to use/sell this body one day!

Use #54 toothbrush holder.

[TimmyJay]

Did this thread die out? I tried using my 2009 Micromag body as a hammer to beat on my computer...Didn't work...go figure.

Any new solutions or are we just waiting for the washer to test out?

Use #35 - Hammer

[Drix]

Did this thread die out? I tried using my 2009 Micromag body as a hammer to beat on my computer...Didn't work...go figure.

Any new solutions or are we just waiting for the washer to test out?

Use #35 - Hammer

I check on this thread frequently but see little signs of life

Think we're still waiting on a solid spacer solution- I'd do it myself (as I have a lathe) however, I do not have an annodized body to test with and it'd be bad to use unanno'd. I'd love to hear from forrest on this matter but I'm not sure they check in on this thread anymore.

[GRAYGHOST]

220. 00$ Worth Of Scrap

Does any one think we will ever get a reply from PTP . Almost 4200 posts close to 1/2 are some type of problem all you see are excuses they wanted proof of problems we gave them proof they wanted pictures we gave them pictures the only solutions i have seen have been from members of AO every day we can read about more problems of spring seat collapse more and more are turning up for sale just like a ticking bomb WHEN IS YOUR MARKER GOING TO SELF DESTRUCT any response would be admitting this is not a problem that is not going away a cure would take trial and error we got the error now is time we put PTP on trial proper testing is unlikely and probably never going to happen the only satisfaction will come from a total boycott of PTP products

[mpsd]

... the only satisfaction will come from a total boycott of PTP products

Serioulsy? Boycott a company that faded away over 5 years ago and that was trying to do a come back with a new product after so many years? That won't produce anything.

You want an answer? Better have a lawyer call them. Other than that, I don't see anything changing here. Sorry to say.

[OPBN]

Found an alternate source to have them made, should have them in 2 weeks if everything goes through. I will keep everyone posted.

Think we are still waiting for Looney to get back with a solution. He did say it would be two weeks....So lets all go nuts after a couple of days.

I also don't necessarily get how a washer will do anything. From what I am looking at, the bolt should never directly be hitting the body should it? It rests on the spring, and the bolt would hit the spring right? How is putting another thin peice of steel in between the spring and the body going to do anything? If I am trying to drive a wooden stake in the ground and beat it with a hammer, the stake will get beaten up. If I put another peice of wood in between, the wood in between takes the brunt of the force. If I put a peice of metal in between, the stake will start to get beat up again won't it? Should be the same principle right?

[GRAYGHOST]

2009 Junk

Thats where i was going how will we collect from all who purchased this CRAP . warranty usually is only good for the original purchaser a good portion have changed hands already and many more are for sale as we speak most of us have been trying to shame a response form Tracy or Forrest i realize PTP is a has been and legal proceedings would further waste money i stated the only way this issue will be solved is the AOers will pitch in and find a permanent repair personally i would like to see him tared and feathered

[Ando]

If I put another peice of wood in between, the wood in between takes the brunt of the force. If I put a peice of metal in between, the stake will start to get beat up again won't it? Should be the same principle right?

You sort of just answered your own question.

Main reason behind the washer is to keep the spring from eating into the the metal. The spring has a knack of turning when the maker is fired and will act like a drill bit. Slowly but surly it'll eat through the breach.

A lot of IT bodies were destroyed this way.

The 7000 series aluminum apparently should hold up like steel but as some have seen it's not and due to that a steel washer is needed.

[mpsd]

A lot of IT bodies were destroyed this way.

The 7000 series aluminum apparently should hold up like steel but as some have seen it's not and due to that a steel washer is needed.

I've got an used IT body, had it re-anoed and fired it over 20,000 times, maybe twice as that with no problems at all. See the irony there? I mean, an IT body, know to have issues never let me down while a PTP product, always known to be top, top quality is having this kind of problem. Weird...

At the other hand, is it possible to confirm that the aluminum used is actually a 7000 series?

[GRAYGHOST]

2009 Joke

A hardness test can be done a hardened punch is driven into a hidden area with a metered force and the depth and width of the dent will determine the type (series) of aluminum the testor is about 200.00 or any good machine shop should have the equipment to do the test

[OPBN]

You sort of just answered your own question.

Main reason behind the washer is to keep the spring from eating into the the meta.l The spring has a knack of turning when the maker if fired and will act like a drill bit. Slowly but surly it'll eat through the breach.

A lot of IT bodies were destroyed this way.

The 7000 series aluminum apparently should hold up like steel but as some have seen it's not and due to that a steel washer is needed.

Not really, because in the second example, the metal which is harder than the wood damages the stake. From what you are saying, the damage in the body is more from the turning of the spring than the force of the bolt hitting the body.

[Ando]

I've got an used IT body, had it re-anoed and fired it over 20,000 times, maybe twice as that with no problems at all. See the irony there? I mean, an IT body, know to have issues never let me down while a PTP product, always known to be top, top quality is having this kind of problem. Weird...

At the other hand, is it possible to confirm that the aluminum used is actually a 7000 series?

Look inside your breach. You more then likely have the washer and clip installed. Unlike your body, these have nothing protecting them.

Not really, because in the second example, the metal which is harder than the wood damages the stake. From what you are saying, the damage in the body is more from the turning of the spring than the force of the bolt hitting the body.

I've seen trees (wood) take out a helicopter blade, I've seen a plastic zip tie cut right though an aluminum line, I've seen string we use to tie up our wire bundles wear a grove into a block of solid aluminum, I've seen a phenolic block eat through the very thing (a metal beam) it that was suppose to protect. Just because something is harder then the other doesn't mean the other is going to give way. The mushrooming comes from the spring hitting and grinding on the breach, the bolt should never touch it. Unless the bodies aren't milled right (which is a very good possibility), the bolt could very well be doing the damage. I'm sure the washer in some way distributes the load as well to include protecting the breach but until you guys get those washers installed, I wouldn't be shooting the damn things.

Lets just say it, these bodies weren't given the proper attention they needed when being built. There was too much crap going on in their shops and we were put on the back burner over and over again. As for the "extensive troubleshooting" done by a certin someone? I'm calling BS on that especially since there are so many people have so many different issues with this body.

It's a 2yr long laundry list of vomit from PTP as to why this or that wasn't getting done and I doubt we'll ever here from any of them ever again on the issue. They made their 35k on us, which was all they wanted. Yaa...We bought them a new CNC machine

AND I'M STILL WAITING ON PARTS TRACY!!!!

[ZoomZ@PTP]

This is the first ive hear of this issue b/c i havnt checked this thread in forever so Im going to step in here and handle this for you guys .

The material is certified as T6-7075 and the problem is from the rotation of the spring from what ive read here .

I didnt think there was going to be as much rotation as there is with some of the springs .

Some guns are not affected by this and i think its the difference in the springs .

ANYONE having a problem with this issue , ship your gun body to me personaly and i will fix it for free and pay to ship it back to you with a pressed in Stainless Steel insert .

Make sure your name and address is clearly marked on the box please.

Alooney , pm me please .

Pro Team Manufacturing
C/o Russell K Breeden
5316 McIntosh Point
Sanford Fl 32773

[zondo]

This is the first ive hear of this issue b/c i havnt checked this thread in forever so Im going to step in here and handle this for you guys .

The material is certified as T6-7075 and the problem is from the rotation of the spring from what ive read here .

I didnt think there was going to be as much rotation as there is with some of the springs .

Some guns are not affected by this and i think its the difference in the springs .

ANYONE having a problem with this issue , ship your gun body to me personaly and i will fix it for free and pay to ship it back to you with a pressed in Stainless Steel insert .

Make sure your name and address is clearly marked on the box please.

Alooney , pm me please .

Pro Team Manufacturing
C/o Russell K Breeden
5316 McIntosh Point
Sanford Fl 32773

Thanks, Russell!

[Brewtt]

How about just sending me a SS washer with my T-shirt? Thanks!