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  • Lohman446
    Useful posts: 7
    • Jun 2003
    • 9315

    #136
    Originally posted by DevilMan
    And WRONG again on using ***** in place of a word does not mean you were using special characters or spacing to circumvent the filter. Why don't you stop and read a bit before just flyin off the handle. You obviously have a very weak grasp on the obvious.

    See my examples on what counts as a rule violation. Spacing or special characters. As what I put. Now if you would like I can PM you some examples with the proper cuss words spelled out.... however it will be known here that it was requested.
    You are telling me I'm wrong that posting the *'s can be treated by the moderators as circumvention or baiting? Funny - the discussion in the past (as has been pointed out repeatedly to you in this thread) stated clearly it can be enforced as such. Don't like it, fine. It really doesn't matter what you think when the administration of the board has clearly stated how they consider it.

    Perhaps you didn't know, now you do. Live with it and move on.
    "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

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    • bofh
      Waldorf, the Heckler
      • Jul 2001
      • 1248

      #137
      Originally posted by DevilMan
      If his opinion don't matter..... Then what makes you think yours does??? So why did you just waste your time typing it up?

      It has nothing to do with his opinion on how he thinks the board should be ran. ZERO to do with it. It has EVERYTHING to do with his thoughts on the way the RULES stated on this BOARD are enforced. Noone here has said squat about how they think it should be different, or how we should be able to VOTE on the rules. BUT we have stated emphatically and repeatedly that the rules are stated as such and are to be followed as such and to be enforced as such.

      Don't try arguing a point that's not being argued with someone who is arguing other topics.

      DM
      I have witnessed 100% FAIL, and it is you.

      Continue to exhibit disruptive behavior and see where it gets you.
      Shaun Nelson --- old, fat, slow.... did I mention lazy? I ate all the pies
      I disable .signatures Apparently you do not.

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      • DevilMan
        FeedBack is at my HomePage
        • Aug 2004
        • 2479

        #138
        Originally posted by Lohman446
        You are telling me I'm wrong that posting the *'s can be treated by the moderators as circumvention or baiting? Funny - the discussion in the past (as has been pointed out repeatedly to you in this thread) stated clearly it can be enforced as such. Don't like it, fine. It really doesn't matter what you think when the administration of the board has clearly stated how they consider it.

        Perhaps you didn't know, now you do. Live with it and move on.

        And yet the point being made is that the Mods did not reveal or write up or announce this rule. Nor did they WARN those that used the **** before banning when the mods themselves have used the same ***** In posts. Because what??? A mod knows that another mod wouldn't post a **** in a post that meant anything bad???

        And NOPE I'm not saying that the mods can't take the ***** as baiting or circumvention... That's not what I said. I can't control how the mods take anything whether it be a tic tac or a rectal thermometer. I can say that by posting ******* it is NOT circumvention of the cuss filter.

        What I did say was ^^^^^^ up there. Has to do with spacing and special characters. (Explaining it yet once again)

        DM

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        • DevilMan
          FeedBack is at my HomePage
          • Aug 2004
          • 2479

          #139
          Originally posted by bofh
          I have witnessed 100% FAIL, and it is you.

          Continue to exhibit disruptive behavior and see where it gets you.

          Alright.... So tell me what is DISRUPTIVE about my behavior??? The fact that I call a spade a spade?? If that disrupts you... A. Don't come to this thread... and B. Don't play cards.

          And yet again I ask you to explain what your post has in relevance to this thread???? From where I sit, you are the one being disruptive. Adding nothing to the discussion and only piping up for your own ego is giving this thread nothing.

          Consider that for a moment.

          DM

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          • Babylon 5
            Registered User
            • May 2007
            • 200

            #140
            Originally posted by Lohman446
            You are telling me I'm wrong that posting the *'s can be treated by the moderators as circumvention or baiting? Funny - the discussion in the past (as has been pointed out repeatedly to you in this thread) stated clearly it can be enforced as such. Don't like it, fine. It really doesn't matter what you think when the administration of the board has clearly stated how they consider it.

            Perhaps you didn't know, now you do. Live with it and move on.
            If the rule was clearly stated in a thread years ago then that just proves that the current mods and administrators are not doing their job because they have had an excessive amount of time to update the rules.

            Moding isn't all about bans you know.

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            • drg
              Half-cocked
              • Oct 2004
              • 1112

              #141
              Righteously arguing a wrong or unprovable position over many posts and many pages is disruptive, and is similar to what Rogue does on a regular basis and why he was prime for a ban. It's flaming and sometimes trolling.
              Last edited by drg; 12-20-2007, 04:52 PM.
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              • bofh
                Waldorf, the Heckler
                • Jul 2001
                • 1248

                #142
                Originally posted by DevilMan
                Alright.... So tell me what is DISRUPTIVE about my behavior???
                Are you going to say with a straight face that you behavior in this thread is not disruptive?

                All that I've seen in this thread is a lot of whiny "This is injustice" posts, and random capitalized words.

                Shaun Nelson --- old, fat, slow.... did I mention lazy? I ate all the pies
                I disable .signatures Apparently you do not.

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                • Lohman446
                  Useful posts: 7
                  • Jun 2003
                  • 9315

                  #143
                  Originally posted by DevilMan
                  Alright.... So tell me what is DISRUPTIVE about my behavior??? The fact that I call a spade a spade?? If that disrupts you... A. Don't come to this thread... and B. Don't play cards.

                  And yet again I ask you to explain what your post has in relevance to this thread???? From where I sit, you are the one being disruptive. Adding nothing to the discussion and only piping up for your own ego is giving this thread nothing.

                  Consider that for a moment.

                  DM

                  You don't call a spade a spade. I have heard a lot of sweeping generalizations that cannot be quite backed up with specific examples so far.

                  You have been told that the rule has been clarified that using *s is in fact bannable. You have been shown the thread where the administration has specifically stated it. And yet you continue to whine about it. Then, you argue that this point is specific to the thread and somehow still valid. Not knowing the rule clarification was ignorance, which we all have on certain subjects and is easily forgiveable. You can guess what most people think continuing to argue the point is.

                  Others have argued that for some reason members of the board are due on explanation of banning. While an explanation may be polite to give, and reasonable to ask for it is not something that is in fact due you, and moving from a request to a demand is ego-centric at best.

                  I have even heard the argument that the members should be given a vote on administrative issues. The logistics of this alone make it unreasonable. The theory that you are entitled to such a vote is ludicrous.

                  Of course, you are the great enlightened one checking websites and making long drawn out posts from the middle of a lake on a jet-ski.
                  "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

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                  • Lohman446
                    Useful posts: 7
                    • Jun 2003
                    • 9315

                    #144
                    Originally posted by Babylon 5
                    If the rule was clearly stated in a thread years ago then that just proves that the current mods and administrators are not doing their job because they have had an excessive amount of time to update the rules.

                    Moding isn't all about bans you know.

                    The rules say no circumventing the cuss filter and no disruptive posting. It was decided that the *'s were at least one of those. When law is "defined" through court action, does the law get rewritten entirely? No, you are responsible to know the law, and how it has been defined. At worst someone was temp-banned for not know, and now a lot of people educated and warned. What real harm was done?
                    "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

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                    • BigEvil
                      www.BigEvilOnline.com

                      • Feb 2005
                      • 9333

                      #145
                      Originally posted by drg
                      Righteously arguing a wrong or unprovable position over many posts and many pages is disruptive, and is similar to what Rogue does on a regular basis and why he was prime for a ban. It's flaming and sometimes trolling.




                      I've seen you play that game with Rogue plenty, if he should be banned so should you.

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                      • txaggie08
                        Big mouth
                        • Jan 2005
                        • 1213

                        #146
                        Big Evil jacking my pictures again...

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                        • BigEvil
                          www.BigEvilOnline.com

                          • Feb 2005
                          • 9333

                          #147
                          Originally posted by bofh
                          Are you going to say with a straight face that you behavior in this thread is not disruptive?

                          All that I've seen in this thread is a lot of whiny "This is injustice" posts, and random capitalized words.


                          Wasnt it stated 'somewhere' that posting of owls and lolcats was prohibited on AO?

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                          • drg
                            Half-cocked
                            • Oct 2004
                            • 1112

                            #148
                            Originally posted by BigEvil
                            I've seen you play that game with Rogue plenty, if he should be banned so should you.
                            I'd take my banning like a man if it happened and not try to rally people to my cause on another site. That's just sad.

                            I know the risks of playing the game and accept mod actions if they are taken. The best players in any sport play at the edge of the rules, and refereeing is always full of judgment calls.
                            Last edited by drg; 12-20-2007, 06:07 PM.
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                            • Lohman446
                              Useful posts: 7
                              • Jun 2003
                              • 9315

                              #149
                              Originally posted by BigEvil
                              [IMG] I've seen you play that game with Rogue plenty, if he should be banned so should you.
                              I know this wasn't directed at me. In fairness, if I ever actually do cross the line and a moderator decides to call me on it I accept that I have skated close enough to it often enough that I earned it. Its a few day ban, I'm sure I can live. I expect many people feel the same way - I'm willing to bet its not far off. Sometimes you have to say oops, yeh officer I might have been speeding, I'll take my ticket now.

                              Unfortunately some people escalte this and become problems. "But, look at everyone else..." "Don't you have better things to do" "You caught up with me..." etc. Sometimes our actions invoke consequences, sometimes the same actions do not. Because sometimes people do not apply the letter of the law perfectly does it mean that you are culpable if you break it?

                              Isn't it far more respectable to stand up and say "yeh, I probably deserved that" than to whine about it (and I do beleive you have not been whining about it)? After all, we are discussing a short term ban from a web forum.

                              The fairness argument though I find weak at best. After all, private "property" does not have to apply rules fairly or evenly. I have engaged the argument here only because far too many people whine if I do not directly address the point. I have addressed it now, and still go back to - private forum, administered at and to the owners desire.
                              "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

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                              • BigEvil
                                www.BigEvilOnline.com

                                • Feb 2005
                                • 9333

                                #150
                                Originally posted by drg
                                I'd take my banning like a man if it happened and not try to rally people to my cause on a third site. That's just sad.

                                A real man wouldn't be a hypocrite. That's sad. I find it very encouraging how many people will stand up to something they see as wrong even when they are not involved or dont have a stake in it.

                                People are passionate about this stuff and are not willing to sit back and let a handful of malcontents ruin what they care for.



                                Have fun gentleman. I have my own concerns to attend to.

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