Deleting threads, stupid or not

[DevilMan]

Silly trivial issues with an internet forum are hardly world issues.

Personally it does effect me, not in a banning way, but in a flurry-of-useless-cruft polluting the forum. Please just stop. You are not going to create any change. In a very real sense, your options are: to live with it, or go elsewhere.

And as I have stated.... Your options were to live with it... or go elsewhere. And yet you chose to come into this thread which obviously don't concern you or affect you to post your thoughts about what I should do.

One should not attempt to instruct others as to how to live their life, without first living their own the way they instruct.

DM

[Lohman446]

This way of life and train of thought applies to REAL LIFE as much as it applies to WEB LIFE.DM

Well... I guess I can give up trying to prove you're an idiot.

And now, we start exposing the flaws. If you want to meld real life and what happens on this message board (we are not discussing a message board that states qualifications for something that actually matters, such as pilot training) lets do that.

Those that do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Those who complain it is too hard to "search" for history and expect all of the answers and rules to be neatly put out in front of them are going to make themselves fools. This way of thinking applies as much to the web as it does real life .

Say you are in my shop / restaurant / whatever and say something I don't like. I remove you. Say customer XX does the same thing and I don't remove him. As long as my decision was not based on race / creed / sex you have no right to say boo about it. That way of thinking applies as much to the web as it does real life .

Say you send an editorial into my paper and I chose not to print it or anything else you ever write again. Say person XX does the same thing and I pring it. Again, as long as that relationship was not based on race / creed / sex I have every right to use my discretion. That way of thining applies as much to the web as it does real life .

Say you, and several other people are speeding. A police officer pulls you over. You broke the rule, you pay the price. He might write the next person a warning. Oh, and that officer, probably speeds by the same speed trap on his way home. Guess what. There will be no action taken against the officer. That way of thinking applies as much to the web as it does real life .

[DevilMan]

Well... I guess I can give up trying to prove you're an idiot.

And now, we start exposing the flaws. If you want to meld real life and what happens on this message board (we are not discussing a message board that states qualifications for something that actually matters, such as pilot training) lets do that.

Those that do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Those who complain it is too hard to "search" for history and expect all of the answers and rules to be neatly put out in front of them are going to make themselves fools. This way of thinking applies as much to the web as it does real life .

Say you are in my shop / restaurant / whatever and say something I don't like. I remove you. Say customer XX does the same thing and I don't remove him. As long as my decision was not based on race / creed / sex you have no right to say boo about it. That way of thinking applies as much to the web as it does real life .

Say you send an editorial into my paper and I chose not to print it or anything else you ever write again. Say person XX does the same thing and I pring it. Again, as long as that relationship was not based on race / creed / sex I have every right to use my discretion. That way of thining applies as much to the web as it does real life .

Say you, and several other people are speeding. A police officer pulls you over. You broke the rule, you pay the price. He might write the next person a warning. Oh, and that officer, probably speeds by the same speed trap on his way home. Guess what. There will be no action taken against the officer. That way of thinking applies as much to the web as it does real life .

I'm glad you're giving up on the trying part. It's a very difficult undertaking and you are not the first to fail trying to do such a thing.

Your examples.... are ALL correct up to the COP part. You see. The Resturant/Shop/etc is YOUR domain. We don't sign papers saying we will obey YOUR rules when we enter. The paper.... Private corporation as well. It may say "Nowhereville Weekly" but that does not mean the paper is paid for by our taxes.

NOW the cop part..... That part you are wrong about. The sentence for the same crime should be the same NO matter who it is. Whether it's a cop thats off duty or not. WHY??? Because MY money PAYs that cop to do his job FAIRLY and EQUALLY. To UPHOLD JUSTICE and to be fair in the execution of that job. He is SWORN to uphold said law equally. To be followed as it is written and printed.

NOW does it happen that way???? NO it does not... Does the fact that it don't happen like it should make it RIGHT???? NO IT DON'T!.... Someone hacks up little babies and tosses em in the lake. No prints and no proof... but that don't make it RIGHT does it????

DM

[devildog]

now here is the real issue at hand:

is cheese cake a cake or a pie?

[Lohman446]

I'm glad you're giving up on the trying part. It's a very difficult undertaking and you are not the first to fail trying to do such a thing.

Your examples.... are ALL correct up to the COP part. You see. The Resturant/Shop/etc is YOUR domain. We don't sign papers saying we will obey YOUR rules when we enter. The paper.... Private corporation as well. It may say "Nowhereville Weekly" but that does not mean the paper is paid for by our taxes.

One seldom continues to try after the point is made.

Let me ask you this then. If the difference is public or private let me ask you this: is this public or private? Its private, the rules are not a contract, the owners of this forum are not bound to them - they can allow anyone to post anything they want here and it can change by person or whim.

And just so this point is not lost. Rogue was not banned on whim.

[TheTexan]

Seems like everyone is attacking DM instead of making a point. If you don't think AO has gotten in a downfall then just look at the amount of members lost. I think management needs to turned up a little bit just my thought.

[Hexis]

now here is the real issue at hand:

is cheese cake a cake or a pie?

It's a baked custard.

THE CAKE IS A LIE!

[Hexis]

Seems like everyone is attacking DM instead of making a point. If you don't think AO has gotten in a downfall then just look at the amount of members lost. I think management needs to turned up a little bit just my thought.

00oh N0es! Entropy!

[Papa_Smurf]

00oh N0es! Entropy!

to the max.

[Anjin3515]

Well... I guess I can give up trying to prove you're an idiot.

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Really is there any need to get into denigrating the guy? You disagree, fine, you want to have a debate fine....but calling him an "idiot" does nothing but take the conversation to a lower level.

[LinearGoose]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=GsVkV3AZqqI

[Lohman446]

Seems like everyone is attacking DM instead of making a point. If you don't think AO has gotten in a downfall then just look at the amount of members lost. I think management needs to turned up a little bit just my thought.

I've made no points? The thing is some people think that "fair and just" are of utmost importance on this forum. A point gets lost in this: Rogue was banned for a long term track record of disruptive behaviour, he had it coming. In the end if you agree with this, or disagree with this it is of little import. AO is a privately owned, privately funded, and privately moderated forum. You have no rights. The ownership and administration has the full right to refuse you service (ban you) for any reason not related to race, religion, or sex. Or, for that matter, no reason at all.

Apparently the administration felt the ban was just. Apparently ownership either agrees or does not beleive that it is a serious enough problem to undercut the moderators authority from here on forward. Or ownership leaves it to the mods and simply does not care. Either way, it doesn't matter what you think.

Want to run things differently, want new mods, want new rules? Rumor is, from TK himself, that AGD is for sale, I'm sure AO could be included in any deal reached. Don't like how things are done, simply pony up the money and then you can have ultimate say, your opinion can matter.

[Lohman446]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=GsVkV3AZqqI

Oh come on. He compared this message board spat to serious geo-political issues in the world and somehow expects people to not call him on the obvious problems in correlation. What would you call it?

[TheTexan]

I've made no points? The thing is some people think that "fair and just" are of utmost importance on this forum. A point gets lost in this: Rogue was banned for a long term track record of disruptive behaviour, he had it coming. In the end if you agree with this, or disagree with this it is of little import. AO is a privately owned, privately funded, and privately moderated forum. You have no rights. The ownership and administration has the full right to refuse you service (ban you) for any reason not related to race, religion, or sex. Or, for that matter, no reason at all.

Apparently the administration felt the ban was just. Apparently ownership either agrees or does not beleive that it is a serious enough problem to undercut the moderators authority from here on forward. Or ownership leaves it to the mods and simply does not care. Either way, it doesn't matter what you think.

Want to run things differently, want new mods, want new rules? Rumor is, from TK himself, that AGD is for sale, I'm sure AO could be included in any deal reached. Don't like how things are done, simply pony up the money and then you can have ultimate say, your opinion can matter.

Big E already did that so I don't haft to. I used to post on AO but now its going to just have to be pbl. I wanted to sell on AO and so I thought a over all change would be nice. And beemer isnt the owner but acts like it with all his bs bans because someone said something about him he didnt like
and you sir just attack DM calling him an idot I dont even know that guy but thats not right

[LinearGoose]

Oh come on. He compared this message board spat to serious geo-political issues in the world and somehow expects people to not call him on the obvious problems in correlation. What would you call it?

Nope. Bad choice of link. Army