Deleting threads, stupid or not

[drg]

Mountain out of a molehill, IMO. You guys want to figure out how to fix AO, look in the mirror.

[MedicDVG]

I guess that AO has to go through this type of blood letting every few years.. Wasn't this very discussions (albeit different precipitating circumstances) held like 2-3 years ago when everyone started crying foul over some topic, a whole host o folks got permanent vacations... I think it took about 6-8 months to sort out entirely...

This is a "Discussion" forum... so allow us the opportunity to discuss. Certainly moderate for personal attacks and gross rule violations, but the current round of bannings and hand spankings are counter productive to the "discussion" part of discussion forums.

Maybe it would be helpful to have a moderated approved list of topics we CAN discuss freely as apparently patent issues and industry credibility aren't one of them.

[CKY_Alliance]

NVM..

[Beemer]

Mountain out of a molehill, IMO. You guys want to figure out how to fix AO, look in the mirror.

Ding, Ding, Ding, Ziiing..............

[DevilMan]

Oh boy, see how this works AirAssault. Looks like he wants a ban to me. Its YOUR thread what would YOU do?

And this is part of your issue Beemer.... You can't see things right.

"Looks like he wants a ban..."

I didn't say I wanted a ban.... I said.... Edit one of my posts and I'll give you a reason to ban me.... simply because I have been here long enough to see many souls come and go through this board.

You don't run off the folks that make AO what it is.... you do that and AO is worthless. The point is being made that something was done unjustly. And when folks see that happen, it gets a bit out of hand. NOW if the people that had issues had resolved them either in PM or via a chat or email or with a 3rd party arbitrating..... these last what???? 8??? 9?? threads that you locked, blocked, edited or deleted wouldn't be here and we'd all be talkin about the upgrades that we did or the way we love our mags or what mods would be cool and what color looks best with my running shoes.

BUT because it was handled improperly this whole ordeal is coming across like the gustapo is running AO....

That is what needs to change....

And it HAS to start with the MODS.... SINCE little ole users like me.... can't talk back or try and make our point if we get the stick....

It says you're in the military no???? Try acting like it. Quit giving the rest of the folks a bad rep.... And please do not start any crap with me about my service. Of which you know nothing about.

DM

[CKY_Alliance]

And this is part of your issue Beemer.... You can't see things right.

"Looks like he wants a ban..."

I didn't say I wanted a ban.... I said.... Edit one of my posts and I'll give you a reason to ban me.... simply because I have been here long enough to see many souls come and go through this board.

You don't run off the folks that make AO what it is.... you do that and AO is worthless. The point is being made that something was done unjustly. And when folks see that happen, it gets a bit out of hand. NOW if the people that had issues had resolved them either in PM or via a chat or email or with a 3rd party arbitrating..... these last what???? 8??? 9?? threads that you locked, blocked, edited or deleted wouldn't be here and we'd all be talkin about the upgrades that we did or the way we love our mags or what mods would be cool and what color looks best with my running shoes.

BUT because it was handled improperly this whole ordeal is coming across like the gustapo is running AO....

That is what needs to change....

And it HAS to start with the MODS.... SINCE little ole users like me.... can't talk back or try and make our point if we get the stick....

It says you're in the military no???? Try acting like it. Quit giving the rest of the folks a bad rep.... And please do not start any crap with me about my service. Of which you know nothing about.

DM

This man speaks the TRUTH!

[ThePixelGuru]

Hah, you guys talk like Rogue and BE are never coming back. It's not a permaban...

Still, there've been some pretty ridiculous bans flying around recently. Speaking of which, the opinions in this thread seem far less against moderation than the others that got deleted. Funny how the more critical ones ended up being the ones that got deleted, while the threads with more support for the mods got moved. Oh well, I'm sure it's just a coincidence.

[Beemer]

I made my thread first and put it in FC...but you locked mine thats wack.

I sound like a five year old I know..but I felt the need.

Doh my bad. I see by four min. Sorry. I was in talk cleaning House when I moved it then saw yours. Want I should do a Redo or do over?

[drg]

And this is part of your issue Beemer.... You can't see things right.

"Looks like he wants a ban..."

I didn't say I wanted a ban.... I said.... Edit one of my posts and I'll give you a reason to ban me.... simply because I have been here long enough to see many souls come and go through this board.

You don't run off the folks that make AO what it is.... you do that and AO is worthless. The point is being made that something was done unjustly. And when folks see that happen, it gets a bit out of hand. NOW if the people that had issues had resolved them either in PM or via a chat or email or with a 3rd party arbitrating..... these last what???? 8??? 9?? threads that you locked, blocked, edited or deleted wouldn't be here and we'd all be talkin about the upgrades that we did or the way we love our mags or what mods would be cool and what color looks best with my running shoes.

BUT because it was handled improperly this whole ordeal is coming across like the gustapo is running AO....

That is what needs to change....

And it HAS to start with the MODS.... SINCE little ole users like me.... can't talk back or try and make our point if we get the stick....

It says you're in the military no???? Try acting like it. Quit giving the rest of the folks a bad rep.... And please do not start any crap with me about my service. Of which you know nothing about.

DM

Then again you could just go on talking about the upgrades that you did or the way you love your mags or what mods would be cool and what colors looks best with your running shoes and stop whining about the mods. You've made your point, if you let it degenerate into a flamefest then you're part of the problem.

Funny you should bring up the military. What would your superiors do if you (yelled) at them about their orders, fair or not?

[DevilMan]

What would they do???? Well for one they don't get yelled at. For 2 they got QUESTIONED MANY TIMES By me... and for 3 I went to Captains Mast 8 times in 6 years....

that's right 8!!!!

And I still have an honorable discharge, and I was asked by my Superiors on MORE than one occassion to re-enlist.

More than once my questioning kept someone from getting hurt, from working where they weren't supposed to and for doing something that they thought they should do.

So there ya have it.... What about yours???? Or are you one of the Yes Ma'am No Ma'am people no matter what the cost?

As for the rest of it... You know I could go on talking about the upgrades, the mods and the running shoes.... but it's hard to do when there is noone around to converse back. Last I saw folks that conversed with themselves only often ended up in padded rooms so they wouldn't bother other folks....

Catch the point yet???

DM

[trevorjk]

wait what???

can some one recap what this is all about?

Do not circumvent the filter. One and only warning. Army

[ThePixelGuru]

wait what???

...can some one recap what this is all about?

Big Evil got banned for telling off Rabid, and then Rogue got banned for telling Beemer to pay less attention to BE and Rabid and more attention to the porn links posted by a spambot in the other forums. A bunch of people have been noticing the oddly-applied ban policies, and now they're all talking about it at once... and usually getting their threads removed, unless enough people who disagree happen to post in the same thread.

Oh, and I'd watch out for triggering the wordfilter. Not like it explicitly says it anywhere in the rules, but I've learned it's ban worthy (depending on what kind of mood the mods are in).

[trevorjk]

Big Evil got banned for telling off Rabid, and then Rogue got banned for telling Beemer to pay less attention to BE and Rabid and more attention to the porn links posted by a spambot in the other forums. A bunch of people have been noticing the oddly-applied ban policies, and now they're all talking about it at once... and usually getting their threads removed, unless enough people who disagree happen to post in the same thread.

Oh, and I'd watch out for triggering the wordfilter. Not like it explicitly says it anywhere in the rules, but I've learned it's ban worthy (depending on what kind of mood the mods are in).

gotcha. pretty funny to be honest (in a sad sort of way) and if i got banned for using a word that describes whining and moaning and pissing and groaning all in one. that would also be pretty funny (in a sad sort of way)

[Beemer]

And this is part of your issue Beemer.... You can't see things right.

"Looks like he wants a ban..."

I didn't say I wanted a ban.... I said.... Edit one of my posts and I'll give you a reason to ban me.... simply because I have been here long enough to see many souls come and go through this board.

You don't run off the folks that make AO what it is.... you do that and AO is worthless. The point is being made that something was done unjustly. And when folks see that happen, it gets a bit out of hand. NOW if the people that had issues had resolved them either in PM or via a chat or email or with a 3rd party arbitrating..... these last what???? 8??? 9?? threads that you locked, blocked, edited or deleted wouldn't be here and we'd all be talkin about the upgrades that we did or the way we love our mags or what mods would be cool and what color looks best with my running shoes.

BUT because it was handled improperly this whole ordeal is coming across like the gustapo is running AO....

That is what needs to change....

And it HAS to start with the MODS.... SINCE little ole users like me.... can't talk back or try and make our point if we get the stick....

It says you're in the military no???? Try acting like it. Quit giving the rest of the folks a bad rep.... And please do not start any crap with me about my service. Of which you know nothing about.

DM

Ok I will TRY and answer. Been here Just a little longer then you. Have seen just a little more here then you.

The unjust thing is not true. BE knows and so does RF. I saw rudz take the hit and not be a cry baby and I didnt swing the stick on him. rudz has the class.

I put my name on it and will stand by it. What you think is unjust is because you dont have all the facts. Believe me I would very much like to post more but cant at this time as it would
not be any good.

As for all the other crap it was removed because that is what it was. Well not ALL of it but I already said I was sorry for that in a previous post.

[DevilMan]

The point being made by myself and many others is this.

Something happens.... Someone gets ticked and someone gets banned.

NOW if it's all a great big understanding between the parties that got BANNED and the BANNERs... Then I don't see where there would be any discussion here.

And it would seem as though that is the view that the MODS have. That everyone is in agreement... So long, farewell.

Now to us lesser ups.... Do we know the full extent of what happened??? NO we don't. But when we enquire as to what went on, instead of an edit, delete, lock, ban reaction it could have been handled in PM or EMAIL to said persons and not brought to light. The said persons could have then been talked to and defused and could have edited their post willingly.... Something to the affect of... " I understand now what went on, edited post to clear the air. Carry on."

That would have stopped this long ago.

The wipe and erase attitude only brings it up to someone that the mods have something to hide. Is it OUR bizness the full story??? Nope... not at all. But when a number of folks start wondering why someone who's been here all of a sudden disappears.... questions get asked. The answer should not be..... "There's nothing to see here... move along!!!" ESPECIALLY HERE ON AO!!!!! That should be a VERY good idea to grasp. AO'ers are NOT SHEEPLE!!!! If we were.... we'd all be talkin about the color kit for our IONs!!!

It was a simple discussion about simple matters that got handled the wrong way that caused the malestrom....

What happens when it passes????

I guess only time will tell.

DM