Global Warm.... Errr Cooling?

[trevorjk]

just a bit of an interesting read that i was linked to, i thought id share

http://www.dailytech.com/Temperature+Monitors+Report+Widescale+Global+Cooling/article10866.htm

Twelve-month long drop in world temperatures wipes out a century of warming

Over the past year, anecdotal evidence for a cooling planet has exploded. China has its coldest winter in 100 years. Baghdad sees its first snow in all recorded history. North America has the most snowcover in 50 years, with places like Wisconsin the highest since record-keeping began. Record levels of Antarctic sea ice, record cold in Minnesota, Texas, Florida, Mexico, Australia, Iran, Greece, South Africa, Greenland, Argentina, Chile -- the list goes on and on.

No more than anecdotal evidence, to be sure. But now, that evidence has been supplanted by hard scientific fact. All four major global temperature tracking outlets (Hadley, NASA's GISS, UAH, RSS) have released updated data. All show that over the past year, global temperatures have dropped precipitously.

A compiled list of all the sources can be seen here. The total amount of cooling ranges from 0.65C up to 0.75C -- a value large enough to wipe out nearly all the warming recorded over the past 100 years. All in one year's time. For all four sources, it's the single fastest temperature change ever recorded, either up or down.

Scientists quoted in a past DailyTech article link the cooling to reduced solar activity which they claim is a much larger driver of climate change than man-made greenhouse gases. The dramatic cooling seen in just 12 months time seems to bear that out. While the data doesn't itself disprove that carbon dioxide is acting to warm the planet, it does demonstrate clearly that more powerful factors are now cooling it.

Let's hope those factors stop fast. Cold is more damaging than heat. The mean temperature of the planet is about 54 degrees. Humans -- and most of the crops and animals we depend on -- prefer a temperature closer to 70.

Historically, the warm periods such as the Medieval Climate Optimum were beneficial for civilization. Corresponding cooling events such as the Little Ice Age, though, were uniformly bad news.

more information can be found here

http://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/2008/02/19/january-2008-4-sources-say-globally-cooler-in-the-past-12-months/

also, this clearly means we had a steady increase in pirates!

[MANN]

you need to re read your graph. I believe what that is saying is that we are in a global delema. The number of pirates is decreasing dramatically. I would like to bring forth policies to solve this horrible problem.

Vote Mann in 2009

[pmstc]

ibtl?

ah, what the heck.

http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/videos/bobcarter.html

[xxkylexx]

Maybe this is all a direct result of me switching to the florescent light bulbs? What have a done!!!???!!

[KC]

you need to re read your graph. I believe what that is saying is that we are in a global delema. The number of pirates is decreasing dramatically. I would like to bring forth policies to solve this horrible problem.

Vote Mann in 2009

Done.

[trevorjk]

you need to re read your graph. I believe what that is saying is that we are in a global delema. The number of pirates is decreasing dramatically. I would like to bring forth policies to solve this horrible problem.

Vote Mann in 2009

oh i know the graph does not represent a rise in pirates by just looking at it. i am just assuming that since the temps went down by almost 1 degree, that we MUST have increased pirates by at least 10,000%

[skife]

i'll stop using HPA and switch back to the CO2.


i'll also use more gas
and
leave the lights on

[MANN]

oh i know the graph does not represent a rise in pirates by just looking at it. i am just assuming that since the temps went down by almost 1 degree, that we MUST have increased pirates by at least 10,000%

you are wise beyond your years. Please forgive me for doubting you

[kosmo]

Youve got it all wrong, it was ninjas.

[trevorjk]

Youve got it all wrong, it was ninjas.

ninjas have not disappeared (as in die) they have just become more stealthy

[BiNumber3]

how funny, i'm takin a course with an astrophysicist at CU boulder and from everything i've learned there, the earth is warming.

India for one has had more rain than ever before, but surrounding areas are wrought with severe drought. Just the same, other areas u see an increase in rainfall/snow, there's a nearby area that's losing that water.

As for this notion that the sun's cooling has a greater effect, im pretty sure that's bogus. Yes the sun will cool, but not in our lifetime, and not rapidly enough for the change to be noticed in the past century.

Gore's movie "An inconvenient truth" goes about all of this with pretty hard evidence and imo is actually pretty interesting. And i've learned that not every published article can be trusted, especially when in "popular" media though i dunno how reputable the site u got that from is.

[MANN]

the earth is warming.

What you have to figure out is why. Is it because we drive cars, or is it because the earth has weather cycles which change from time to time.

[Tunaman]

how funny, i'm takin a course with an astrophysicist at CU boulder and from everything i've learned there, the earth is warming.

India for one has had more rain than ever before, but surrounding areas are wrought with severe drought. Just the same, other areas u see an increase in rainfall/snow, there's a nearby area that's losing that water.

As for this notion that the sun's cooling has a greater effect, im pretty sure that's bogus. Yes the sun will cool, but not in our lifetime, and not rapidly enough for the change to be noticed in the past century.

Gore's movie "An inconvenient truth" goes about all of this with pretty hard evidence and imo is actually pretty interesting. And i've learned that not every published article can be trusted, especially when in "popular" media though i dunno how reputable the site u got that from is.

Kinda like when he invented the internet too right? Keep listening to your liberal professors. You'll vote for Barack Hussein Obama like the rest of them too I bet...

[BiNumber3]

nope i just like making my choices after the facts are laid out, and i like to see where these facts come from before deciding.

I havent watched all of said movie, but it does lay out a number a facts that i couldnt prove wrong with any research, tho my own research wasn't nearly as exhaustive as it could've been (i'm a tad lazy:P)

assuming that's watcha mean

I didnt mean anything by my post other than that sometimes the whole picture isn't covered, and things can get taken out of context and misunderstood, seems to happen all too much in media.

[robnix]

Kinda like when he invented the internet too right?

Tuna, you're the man, but I have to repost what I posted about 6 months ago. I don't like Al Gore, but I hate false internet memes even more.

http://automags.org/forums/showpost....78&postcount=3

I despise Al Gore, but the "Inventing the Internet" thing has been taken WAY out of context. He actually said:

"During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet."

Did he have any influence? Vinton Cerf and Robert Kahn seem to think so:

http://web.archive.org/web/20011224...9/0711253.shtml

Al Gore and the Internet
By Robert Kahn and Vinton Cerf

Al Gore was the first political leader to recognize the importance of the Internet and to promote and support its development.

No one person or even small group of persons exclusively �invented� the Internet. It is the result of many years of ongoing collaboration among people in government and the university community. But as the two people who designed the basic architecture and the core protocols that make the Internet work, we would like to acknowledge VP Gore�s contributions as a Congressman, Senator and as Vice President. No other elected official, to our knowledge, has made a greater contribution over a longer period of time.

Last year the Vice President made a straightforward statement on his role. He said: �During my service in the United States Congress I took the initiative in creating the Internet.� We don�t think, as some people have argued, that Gore intended to claim he �invented� the Internet. Moreover, there is no question in our minds that while serving as Senator, Gore�s initiatives had a significant and beneficial effect on the still-evolving Internet. The fact of the matter is that Gore was talking about and promoting the Internet long before most people were listening. We feel it is timely to offer our perspective.

As far back as the 1970s Congressman Gore promoted the idea of high speed telecommunications as an engine for both economic growth and the improvement of our educational system. He was the first elected official to grasp the potential of computer communications to have a broader impact than just improving the conduct of science and scholarship. Though easily forgotten, now, at the time this was an unproven and controversial concept. Our work on the Internet started in 1973 and was based on even earlier work that took place in the mid-late 1960s. But the Internet, as we know it today, was not deployed until 1983. When the Internet was still in the early stages of its deployment, Congressman Gore provided intellectual leadership by helping create the vision of the potential benefits of high speed computing and communication. As an example, he sponsored hearings on how advanced technologies might be put to use in areas like coordinating the response of government agencies to natural disasters and other crises.

As a Senator in the 1980s Gore urged government agencies to consolidate what at the time were several dozen different and unconnected networks into an �Interagency Network.� Working in a bi-partisan manner with officials in Ronald Reagan and George Bush�s administrations, Gore secured the passage of the High Performance Computing and Communications Act in 1991. This �Gore Act� supported the National Research and Education Network (NREN) initiative that became one of the major vehicles for the spread of the Internet beyond the field of computer science.

As Vice President Gore promoted building the Internet both up and out, as well as releasing the Internet from the control of the government agencies that spawned it. He served as the major administration proponent for continued investment in advanced computing and networking and private sector initiatives such as Net Day. He was and is a strong proponent of extending access to the network to schools and libraries. Today, approximately 95% of our nation�s schools are on the Internet. Gore provided much-needed political support for the speedy privatization of the Internet when the time arrived for it to become a commercially-driven operation.

There are many factors that have contributed to the Internet�s rapid growth since the later 1980s, not the least of which has been political support for its privatization and continued support for research in advanced networking technology. No one in public life has been more intellectually engaged in helping to create the climate for a thriving Internet than the Vice President. Gore has been a clear champion of this effort, both in the councils of government and with the public at large.

The Vice President deserves credit for his early recognition of the value of high speed computing and communication and for his long-term and consistent articulation of the potential value of the Internet to American citizens and industry and, indeed, to the rest of the world.

Gore's 1994 speech on the internet:

http://artcontext.com/calendar/1997/superhig.html

Hate him for his politics, his global warming fear mongering, whatever else you want, but Gore was a key player in making the internet a public resource.