what would you spend 369 million on?

[Hilltop Customs]

Well, as usual I cant sleep, so I'm flipping channels and happen to pop on PBS at just the right time when they are showing some info about gays in the military. Turns out this one guy is registered to a gay/lesbian forum, and he gets discharged because he described his sexuality as gay under his profile.

well that is the subplot, then something I find simply disgusting pops up, over 369 MILLION DOLLARS have been spent by the government to find/discharge/replace US Army soldiers who are gay/lesbian.

After seeing that there are 3 things that bug the hell out of me:

1)Maybe i'm just confused, but when did these people lose the right to fight for and protect their country?

2)Many of the soldiers who are discharged, their superiors and fellow soldiers had NO idea(like the guy in the initial story). So how could their sexuality have ANY impact on their, or their fellow soldiers?

3)369 MILLION spent solely for the purpose to exclude people based on their sexuality......all while supposedly fighting for "freedom" so when did gays/lesbians loose their freedom?



I prefer tan women, does that make me different from a guy who prefers white pasty women? what about a guy who prefers other tan guys?

[bornl33t]

This thread is full of hear say, not so factual "fact" and liberal sensationalism.

I call this thread gay until links are posted from a credible news source. Because with all the liberal bias in the news if they don't report it, it's probably not true.


IN other news a substancial amount of uranium has been found in Iraq.

[questionful]

America is a hypocrite. First they take the indians' land. Then they send them to concentration camps. Then they enslave black people. Then they don't let gay people be gay? Geez. Home of the free seems a little exaggerated.

[MoeMag]

IN other news a substancial amount of uranium has been found in Iraq.

Too bad that thread didnt last the night.

[Hilltop Customs]

[Hilltop Customs]

Too bad that thread didnt last the night.

I wonder where threads go when they die? I bet this one will soon be find out

[ThePixelGuru]

Plus they canned a bunch of fluent Arabic speakers because they were gay, and now they don't have enough Arabic speakers to translate all the intelligence they're gathering. There's a bunch of Arabic documents and recordings that our government has but doesn't know anything about because they're waiting for a heterosexual to get around to translating it.

bornl33t, would it really be news to you that the government is throwing away a crapload of money on unnecessary military stuff like weeding out gays while still not buying useful stuff like armor to protect our troops? That must be one big dark rock you've been hiding under.

[MANN]

sounds like money well spent.

[Hilltop Customs]

sounds like money well spent.

i wonder if you say that because you hate gay people and dont want them to represent your country....or if you love gay people and dont want them to die in the war

[MANN]

i wonder if you say that because you hate gay people and dont want them to represent your country....or if you love gay people and dont want them to die in the war

I just wish I could decide.

[wetwrks]

How is this any different than being told you cannot have tatoo's in the military, joining, then running out and getting one and then getting kicked out?

Not at all.

Don't ask, don't tell.

[michbich]

I don't see why it's such a big deal in the first place. What is the main argument against having gays in the army?

[Hilltop Customs]

tattoo= choice gay=sexuality

it would be a choice if they went around flaunting it like a gay pride parade 24/7, but the soldier's comrades in the interview had NO idea, neither did his captain, or anyone else in his unit.

Should a soldier that doesnt ask and doesnt tell still be discharged if they happen to post on a gay forum? So not only are the limited with their communication with fellow soldiers(because of dont as dont tell), they are now completely restricted in their entire lifestyle....is that right? I realize people give up some freedoms when entering the military, but is it right to ask someone to give up that much when serving our country?

thanks wetwrks for providing an argument instead of just stating liberal and moving on. I was hoping we would actually be able to discuss a topic instead of flaming over it.

[MANN]

tattoo= choice gay=sexuality

So you are defining that your sexuality is not a choice?

If so that is a HUGE statement.

[Hilltop Customs]

I don't see why it's such a big deal in the first place. What is the main argument against having gays in the army?

thats kindof one of the topics I hoped this would lead to. I think it mostly is because people in general have some apprehension toward gay people. Especially in situations where you are forced in close proximity with your peers....like the military. Another is the simple fact that the military represents the US, and some people feel that having homosexuals in the military is some form of bad representation. I honestly cant tell you because I really dont have a problem if ANYONE wants to serve in the military....anyone else want to chime in on this?