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  • Nobody
    Nobody's Perfect
    • Oct 2001
    • 3384

    #1546
    Originally posted by Pyrate Jim
    You infer that there actually was a time people trusted the Government. Since before Lincoln was assassinated people have been questioning how much to trust the Government.
    Roswell, JFK, Nixon... All examples of questionable transparency of Government spanning multiple Administrations. Don't act like it's some new thing restricted to the current President.

    What I see is Trump fulfilling the campaign promises that the majority of the country voted for.
    Drain the swamp. Root out corruption. Eliminate waste and spending that does not benefit our country or its citizens.
    The reality is, when you drain the swamp to get rid of the alligators there are a lot of smaller fish left high and dry.
    It's only natural that these "fish" would complain.

    I'm sure you've heard of the Thomas Jefferson quote about the tree of liberty being refreshed with the blood of patriots and tyrants. I do know about trees.
    Trump is not a Politician; He is a political arborist. Pruning the tree of liberty so that the roots don't need to be refreshed, and branches can grow stronger.
    Lol, this made me laugh. No serious, it is truly a mad, nutter of a post that has no sense of realism. It is absurdist. I will make 2 points, cause any more and I think my thumbs will break.

    1. Thomas Jefferson said a lot of things. He had thoughts on tyranny, as well as government and everything in between. He also said things that were very much a contradiction. While in France, he was writing papers on abolition, how man should not own man, anti-slavery. When he got home, he kept his slaves, exploited their work, broke up families and raped the women.

    Now, you might say, that it was accepted in the times, how he was doing nothing more than a lot of presidents and citizens at the time. So, what do you call someone who says one thing and does the opposite? Why is it great words to be considered when he was exactly who he was writing on tyranny? So no, TJ's words mean nothing, because he didn't live by them. But I don't know what is worse, people using quotes to try and make their point seem justified or that the quote they use, generally represents themselves and how they are the subject of that quote.

    2. So are you the arbiter of campaign promises kept? Inflation is still rising and he said he would end that on day 1 or was that one day? The same with the grocery bills, which as of this week, egg prices have reached the highest point, even with inflation, ever. But has he done anything? I am being serious, other than a flurry of EOs, what has he done? One thing he has done has tanked his poll numbers to the lowest ever for the 1st 100 days.

    Yet you say that he is rooting out corruption and draining the swamp. Didn't he say he was doing that 8 years ago? I know, there was those lost 4 hears where everything returned and he had to start over again, but still. You would think that some 34 count indicted criminal, reality TV star, who can't run a business, would do something that would stick but he hasn't. What is worse is that Musk bought him, and Musk, not only being the #1 government handout baby, who has major conflicting in just about everything he does. From his factories in China, which technically he doesn't own(China is bad right?, through the FAA with SpaceX.

    Yet the waste and corruption that he is supposed to find, what has come of that? To paraphrase Jon Stewart, why not end the subsidies and handouts that go to the petroleum companies? That's a couple of billion dollars alone. After so many quarters of those businesses that reported new net profits, I would think they don't need the money? Or maybe go after those people that owe taxes? You know, those people who owe millions in taxes.

    While I understand the difference of political rhetoric and political speech. I still find it absurd that you think that regardless of what I think or believe, that you think that trump and his sycophants will actually do anything that would benefit you. Remove EPA restrictions so the quality of your water is worse(but you have a well and don't use city water). See gas, grocery and energy prices skyrocket. Have your taxes go up. Whatever...

    If you think that Trump and his people will do anything but burn this country down, you have a better chance of seeing pigs fly the new space shuttle to Jupiter.

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    • going_home
      Hebrews 13:8

      • Dec 2004
      • 8343

      #1547
      The president should do an executive order to get rid of daylight savings time.

      Its just stupid, I've never talked to anyone that likes it.

      Of course just to be obstinate Doug will probably disagree.

      But thats the way we do here, agree to disagree.

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      • Loguzzzzzz
        Practice Target

        • Sep 2004
        • 2121

        #1548
        Originally posted by going_home
        The president should do an executive order to get rid of daylight savings time.

        Its just stupid, I've never talked to anyone that likes it.

        Of course just to be obstinate Doug will probably disagree.

        But thats the way we do here, agree to disagree.
        I disagree with you too. I happen to like the change but that is just me. In the grand scheme of things this is a non-issue to me. If they did get rid of it, really wouldn't care.

        You need t remember, if there was an EO regarding this the next president could undo it.
        ......You know you want one!!

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        • Pyrate Jim
          Shi Tamajutsu Ka
          • May 2002
          • 1052

          #1549
          I'm getting old. I wrote this like two days ago but never posted it. Still a relevant response to Nobodys last post..

          Number one) Of course Thomas Jefferson was a hypocrite. He was a Democrat.

          Number two) I don't arbitrate anything. I record what was said and compare it to what was done and the results.


          Originally posted by Nobody
          How can anyone believe anything the government says when there are no 3rd party people telling the truth?
          A third party? Like the tea party or green party?
          How about a businessman with zero political background? Is that third party enough for you?

          You fail to look beneath the surface. Consider the recent Trump ~ Zalenski debacle. Things were said, but what was the outcome?
          (besides White House staff devouring the lunch prepared for the delegates that failed to happen)
          President Macron of France is demanding a ceasefire.
          The Head of the E.U. (which is not a single person) claims it's "time to re-arm Europe"
          U.K. Prime Minister Starmer wants to "keep aid flowing" & "Arm Ukraine" with "Boots on the ground and planes in the air"
          And pretty much guaranteed that President Zalenski won't be invited to any "black tie" events.

          Wasn't long ago that Trump wanted out of NATO because they weren't covering their share of cost. All of a sudden, just the threat of U.S. withdrawal has them commit resources.
          So, who got what they wanted? Words were said, actions were taken, and the results will apparently benefit America. Which remains to be seen.

          I don't predict the future. Blanket statements like this, while admittedly creative, are inherently false.
          If you think that Trump and his people will do anything but burn this country down, you have a better chance of seeing pigs fly the new space shuttle to Jupiter.
          If Mr. Know-So-Much believes the country will burn, why are you still here? Waiting for a pig to fly by and carry you off to Jupiter?
          How can you say with any degree of certainty, what will happen tomorrow or the months & years yet to come? I cannot, I doubt you can.
          So don't give me that "Trump will do this" or "Trump will do that" nonsense because it's pure speculation without a shred of evidence.
          Maybe saying "Trump will hit Adam Schiff in the face with a custard pie" would be more plausible.
          CT Co-ordinator, Paintball Marshals

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          • Pyrate Jim
            Shi Tamajutsu Ka
            • May 2002
            • 1052

            #1550
            More recently, anyone else sit through Trump's joint Congressional Address?
            A big divide there in the room. Both positive and negative.
            The Democrats sat there like a bunch of juvenile delinquents being forced to sit through detention, waving their little placards as if they were trying to outbid each other.
            Well, except Al Greene, who early on had to escorted from the room by the Sgt at Arms and Al Sharpton, who stood up and left halfway through.
            Nancy Pelosi's face looked like a study of "Night on Bald Mountain" apparently because She didn't get a copy to tear up.

            The other side of the aisle?
            Look, I understand the office of President deserves respect and admiration. Sybaritic ebullience is a little over the top.
            Let the man actually say something before interrupting with applause. You'd think John Lennon rose from the grave and declared the second coming.
            I swear the actual address would have half as long had Trump not repeatedly been kept waiting for the applause to end.
            But it's Trump. You know He loves it.
            CT Co-ordinator, Paintball Marshals

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            • Nobody
              Nobody's Perfect
              • Oct 2001
              • 3384

              #1551
              Wow, so much you got factually wrong.
              ,
              Originally posted by Pyrate Jim
              I'm getting old. I wrote this like two days ago but never posted it. Still a relevant response to Nobodys last post..
              Well, we are all getting old. Some age better than others

              Originally posted by Pyrate Jim
              [Number one) Of course Thomas Jefferson was a hypocrite. He was a Democrat.
              I was hoping you would look past the 1st word in his party, the Democratic-Republicans, but apparently that is too much to ask. While understanding 200 year old dead political parties is not everyone's forte, the Democatic-Republicans are not democrats as they are today, nor are they Republicans. That party did split into both parties, but are not what the parties are today.


              Originally posted by Pyrate Jim
              [Number two) I don't arbitrate anything. I record what was said and compare it to what was done and the results.
              Of course you do. By fact that you call Jefferson a democrat is you arbitrating what you want to hear versus the actual truth.

              Originally posted by Pyrate Jim
              [A third party? Like the tea party or green party?
              How about a businessman with zero political background? Is that third party enough for you?
              You do realize that when someone says a 3rd party, it does not mean a political one. You can have a 3rd party that is not affiliated with either party, hence how they could arbitrate a result. Think of them as judge or referee.

              Originally posted by Pyrate Jim
              [You fail to look beneath the surface. Consider the recent Trump ~ Zalenski debacle. Things were said, but what was the outcome?
              (besides White House staff devouring the lunch prepared for the delegates that failed to happen)
              No, I pretty much got exactly what happened. Trump wanted Zelenski to bend the knee and kiss trump's buttocks and Zelenski refused. There is a thing called respect, and Trump didn't get the platitudes that he thought he deserved.

              Originally posted by Pyrate Jim
              [President Macron of France is demanding a ceasefire.

              The Head of the E.U. (which is not a single person) claims it's "time to re-arm Europe"
              U.K. Prime Minister Starmer wants to "keep aid flowing" & "Arm Ukraine" with "Boots on the ground and planes in the air"
              And pretty much guaranteed that President Zalenski won't be invited to any "black tie" events.
              No one wants a war, death and carnage, unless you are the person pursuing that. So yes, people all around want a ceasefire. But the key is to make a ceasefire more agreeable than the ongoing war. Hence why Zelenski was asking for assurance. While he does want to not see any more of his country's men & women dies, what is there to stop it happening again? 2014 to 2022 there was appeasement, but look now as the war goes into it's 3rd year? Who is there trying to stop this?

              Originally posted by Pyrate Jim
              [Wasn't long ago that Trump wanted out of NATO because they weren't covering their share of cost. All of a sudden, just the threat of U.S. withdrawal has them commit resources.
              So, who got what they wanted? Words were said, actions were taken, and the results will apparently benefit America. Which remains to be seen.
              Oh, boy.

              1) any NATO spending is a goal, not a requirement. While some nation's spending meets that, others don't. And while that is frowned upon, it doesn't mean that they loose membership.

              2) NATO and the EU are spending more, as they have been spending and assisting Ukraine for their war, at a higher gross monetary value bigger than the US. They also see that trump is not aligning with the rest of NATO and are seeing the bear at the doorstep, as it were. While the US is the biggest military supplier, it doesn't mean 5hat they are the only one. Since Trump is literally aligning with the baddie, in this situation, the EU is pushing to not be caught unprepared. To a point, this is tightening NATO as a whole, as it has become increasingly likely that NATO cannot count on the US under trump and have to provide for themselves, more than the past 70 years.

              If you care to look at 3uropean arms manufacturers like Rhienmetal, their stock prices have skyrocketed, and the CEO of Rhienmatal has stated that it is not capacity or money, it is the fact that bureaucracy in the Ukraine that has been a problem for them to setup plants in Ukraine to make munitions.

              Originally posted by Pyrate Jim
              [I don't predict the future. Blanket statements like this, while admittedly creative, are inherently false.

              If Mr. Know-So-Much believes the country will burn, why are you still here? Waiting for a pig to fly by and carry you off to Jupiter?
              Well, I am an American. This is my country. I also cannot afford to move/emmigrate to another country, though I would love to. And just because there is a horse's buttocks that is looking to burn the country down, I want to be there to say, "I told you so". It would be harder to do that, across the pond.

              Originally posted by Pyrate Jim
              [How can you say with any degree of certainty, what will happen tomorrow or the months & years yet to come? I cannot, I doubt you can.
              So don't give me that "Trump will do this" or "Trump will do that" nonsense because it's pure speculation without a shred of evidence.
              Maybe saying "Trump will hit Adam Schiff in the face with a custard pie" would be more plausible.
              History tells me. Those that fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

              Dismantling the government, check. Let's get rid of USAID, social security, the education department, and totally break the laws on oversight, firing of people with protections, and not spending money already earmarked from congress, to but name a few.

              I don't have to tell you what trump will do, as he has already displayed that he says it, and he will do it. It is more difficult to see the endgame ot those changes, and predict to where trump will end. A lot of to where trump is going, is towards a dictatorship. He is literally following the same playbook as those that have done so in the past and present. He is turning his(our country's) back on our allies, while making friends with those people who are authoritarians.

              So yes, you can easily see and predict what trump is doing because he us a 5 year old that throws temper tantrums when he is challenged. Anyone not up his rectum could see that during the Zelenski meeting.

              BTW, what does his rectum smell like? Cause I am the only one that isn't up it in here.

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              • going_home
                Hebrews 13:8

                • Dec 2004
                • 8343

                #1552
                Originally posted by Nobody
                BTW, what does his rectum smell like? Cause I am the only one that isn't up it in here.
                Well at least you got to know the flavor and smell of Harris and Biden's while you were up theirs.....

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                • Nobody
                  Nobody's Perfect
                  • Oct 2001
                  • 3384

                  #1553
                  Originally posted by going_home
                  Well at least you got to know the flavor and smell of Harris and Biden's while you were up theirs.....
                  See, you would think that, but I wouldl disagree with them. I would have held them accountable for what they done or would do, but you see, and here is the secret. While I do support them, I am not so misguided to think that they could do no wrong. Biden did a few things that I disagree with, and I am sure Harris the same. Yet it doesn't matter as Biden is out of office and Harris wasn't elected. I don't see anyone here speaking out loud of the things that a 34 count indicted criminal rapist has done wrong. In fact, there are so many here that not only have drunk the koolaid, but are swimming in it. And yes, I would love to be all up in Harris's business. She is a hell of a lot better looking than trump and/or Vance. Guess that means I am hetero.

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                  • Beemer
                    I could tell you but then.

                    • Oct 2003
                    • 3250

                    #1554
                    Originally posted by Nobody
                    34 count indicted criminal rapist
                    Quit LYING. He was never convicted of Rape. YOU drank the Koo-Aid and are swimming in it. What flavor is it? Shouldn't you be over on PBN.

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                    • Nobody
                      Nobody's Perfect
                      • Oct 2001
                      • 3384

                      #1555
                      Originally posted by Beemer
                      Quit LYING. He was never convicted of Rape. YOU drank the Koo-Aid and are swimming in it. What flavor is it? Shouldn't you be over on PBN.
                      It's not me, it is the judge. And since I have no law degree, nor passed the bar, I am just citing the law.



                      Nine jurors found Donald Trump had sexually abused E. Jean Carroll, but they didn't call it "rape." Here's why a judge said that word still applies.






                      You don't have to like it, but you can be damn in saying I am lying.

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                      • Loguzzzzzz
                        Practice Target

                        • Sep 2004
                        • 2121

                        #1556
                        Originally posted by Nobody
                        Wow, so much you got factually wrong. If you are going to make a statement like that you had better have backup to refute is or it is just more trash from you
                        ,


                        Well, we are all getting old. Some age better than others Thank you for the clarification Captain Obvious. I for one am aging well. My guess it that at 15 years your senior, you couldn't keep up with me.



                        I was hoping you would look past the 1st word in his party, the Democratic-Republicans, but apparently that is too much to ask. While understanding 200 year old dead political parties is not everyone's forte, the Democatic-Republicans are not democrats as they are today, nor are they Republicans. That party did split into both parties, but are not what the parties are today. Where did you get this? Links or a garbage post.




                        Of course you do. By fact that you call Jefferson a democrat is you arbitrating what you want to hear versus the actual truth.



                        You do realize that when someone says a 3rd party, it does not mean a political one. You can have a 3rd party that is not affiliated with either party, hence how they could arbitrate a result. Think of them as judge or referee. Third party can mean many things. so another garbage post



                        No, I pretty much got exactly what happened. Trump wanted Zelenski to bend the knee and kiss trump's buttocks and Zelenski refused. There is a thing called respect, and Trump didn't get the platitudes that he thought he deserved. Oh yeah, you where there? more conjecture



                        No one wants a war, death and carnage, unless you are the person pursuing that. So yes, people all around want a ceasefire. But the key is to make a ceasefire more agreeable than the ongoing war. Hence why Zelenski was asking for assurance. While he does want to not see any more of his country's men & women dies, what is there to stop it happening again? 2014 to 2022 there was appeasement, but look now as the war goes into it's 3rd year? Who is there trying to stop this?



                        Oh, boy.

                        1) any NATO spending is a goal, not a requirement. While some nation's spending meets that, others don't. And while that is frowned upon, it doesn't mean that they loose membership. And you know this how? Did you study their bylaws? Im guessing NO

                        2) NATO and the EU are spending more, as they have been spending and assisting Ukraine for their war, at a higher gross monetary value bigger than the US. They also see that trump is not aligning with the rest of NATO and are seeing the bear at the doorstep, as it were. While the US is the biggest military supplier, it doesn't mean 5hat they are the only one. Since Trump is literally aligning with the baddie, in this situation, the EU is pushing to not be caught unprepared. To a point, this is tightening NATO as a whole, as it has become increasingly likely that NATO cannot count on the US under trump and have to provide for themselves, more than the past 70 years. And you know this how? More opinion


                        If you care to look at 3uropean arms manufacturers like Rhienmetal, their stock prices have skyrocketed, and the CEO of Rhienmatal has stated that it is not capacity or money, it is the fact that bureaucracy in the Ukraine that has been a problem for them to setup plants in Ukraine to make munitions. No reference then this is conjecture. Make up some more garbage you EGO Maniac.



                        Well, I am an American. This is my country. I also cannot afford to move/emmigrate to another country, though I would love to. And just because there is a horse's buttocks that is looking to burn the country down, I want to be there to say, "I told you so". It would be harder to do that, across the pond. How much to do you need. I will make a "Go Fund Me" page for you. I bet people here would contribute.



                        History tells me. Those that fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it. CLICHE

                        Dismantling the government, check. Let's get rid of USAID, social security, the education department, and totally break the laws on oversight, firing of people with protections, and not spending money already earmarked from congress, to but name a few. Maybe you will save some money. Oh yeah don't forget to give it to charity as to not be complacent or a HYPOCRITE

                        I don't have to tell you what trump will do, as he has already displayed that he says it, and he will do it. It is more difficult to see the endgame ot those changes, and predict to where trump will end. A lot of to where trump is going, is towards a dictatorship. He is literally following the same playbook as those that have done so in the past and present. He is turning his(our country's) back on our allies, while making friends with those people who are authoritarians. More Opinion

                        So yes, you can easily see and predict what trump is doing because he us a 5 year old that throws temper tantrums when he is challenged. Anyone not up his rectum could see that during the Zelenski meeting. OPINION

                        BTW, what does his rectum smell like? Cause I am the only one that isn't up it in here. Probably like crap, just like your.
                        You are so full of garbage and useless opinions that nothing you say has a shred of credibility.
                        FYI - We are all LAUGHING at you!
                        ......You know you want one!!

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                        • Loguzzzzzz
                          Practice Target

                          • Sep 2004
                          • 2121

                          #1557
                          Originally posted by Nobody
                          Civil court, not criminal court...BIG difference. Just ask OJ, oh wait, you can't, he is dead now...
                          ......You know you want one!!

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                          • Nobody
                            Nobody's Perfect
                            • Oct 2001
                            • 3384

                            #1558
                            Originally posted by Loguzzzzzz
                            You are so full of garbage and useless opinions that nothing you say has a shred of credibility.
                            FYI - We are all LAUGHING at you!
                            Actually, you prove me wrong. Come on try it. I don't have to accredit my claims, cause you know I am correct, but disprove them. Show the forum how wrong I am. But you won't cause it would take too much time, besides that, any links I could provide you won't check them so no. If you want the superiority of thinking you know better than me, prove it.

                            Originally posted by Loguzzzzzz
                            Civil court, not criminal court...BIG difference. Just ask OJ, oh wait, you can't, he is dead now...
                            Again, if you cared to read any of those links, it has nothing to do with in which court it is from. Which is why trump was hit with a monetary charge and not criminal one. Besides, OJ was cleared of the criminal charges but found guilty of the liability, hence why OJ had to pay the families some money. So while trump doesn't have to go to prison for the crime he committed, he was found liable for the act of raping E.Jean Carrol.

                            So cry a little more...

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                            • Beemer
                              I could tell you but then.

                              • Oct 2003
                              • 3250

                              #1559
                              Originally posted by nobody
                              You don't have to like it, but you can be damn in saying I am lying.
                              I could be but I'm not and you are.


                              Originally posted by nobody
                              Actually, you prove me wrong. Come on try it. I don't have to accredit my claims, cause you know I am correct, but disprove them. Show the forum how wrong I am. If you want the superiority of thinking you know better than me, prove it.

                              So while trump doesn't have to go to prison for the crime he committed, he was found liable for the act of raping E.Jean Carrol.
                              Do you even READ what you post?? Now be quiet and sit down. Shouldn't you be over on PBN


                              Originally posted by links
                              When E. Jean Carroll and Donald Trump went to trial last spring over her sexual assault allegations, a nine-person civil jury found that Trump sexually abused her but that she failed to prove he raped her.

                              In written instructions, U.S. District Judge Lewis Kaplan asked jurors to decide whether the "preponderance of the evidence" shows that Trump "raped," "sexually abused," or "forcibly touched" Carroll. The jury checked "no" on the rape question.

                              The jury, which deliberated fewer than three hours, opted not to find Trump liable for rape but rather sexual abuse that injured Carroll.

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                              • Beemer
                                I could tell you but then.

                                • Oct 2003
                                • 3250

                                #1560
                                Originally posted by nobody
                                NATO and the EU are spending more, as they have been spending and assisting Ukraine for their war, at a higher gross monetary value bigger than the US.
                                More BS. Now sit down and be Quiet.

                                NATO isn't doing squat.




                                This chart shows the countries which have committed the most aid to Ukraine, by type, from January 2022 to December 2024.





                                The U.S. is the largest donor overall and also leads in military aid donations, which include weapons, equipment, and funds for weapon procurement. In total, the U.S. has provided nearly $120 billion in aid to Ukraine since the war began in 2022.

                                This infographic visualizes the 10 largest donors of military, financial, and humanitarian aid to Ukraine from 2022 to 2024.
                                Last edited by Beemer; 03-07-2025, 12:32 PM.

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