The Official Iraq War Thread...

[pbzmag]

More news. Several journalist who were arrested for spying were released and are now back in Jordan. More info about the recue mission, Lynch's rescue team also brought out the bodies of up to 11 people believed to be U.S. soldiers. More info here: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...=564&ncid=1473

[cphilip]

Bodies of more POW's are found in the same "Hospital" that was realy a military compound.


Tigris river breached by US and taken and the battle for Bagdad is on. Many Republican Guards going down now FAST. And they are folding at the bridge and access to Bagdad is now open. There is no hold and wait as you have been told...We are taking the thing to them now. There is no Al Jezeera nonsense in the battle field folks. The thing is real and there will be not much more propaganda believed from now on. the wheels are off the wagon and stuff is coming apart for the Iraqis. Its on...

[pbstu]

I had forgotten why I had left this forum, this has reminded me:

Originally posted by cphilip


Bwahahahahaha! That was stuff were captured INSIDE IRAQ!!!! You are realy grasping now... You forget that was to counter CB's contention they were Al Queda connected but not Iraqis connected. Come on man...this was stuff captured IN IRAQ! give the militant spin a break dude. Its unraveled on you. THIS STUFF WAS IN IRAQ WHEN WE FOUND IT!!!!! LOL! your pathetic now... and your insistence is doomed to failure my friend. It's a "game set match" on the Al Ansar issue. The only thing remaining is any Al Queda link. Read it all if you intend to argue it...

how are you a mod? your supposed to be setting examples! arent these your words too?

"As soon as this Battle starts I will reopen this one and close the others. But for now confine all comments to the existing Iraq thread.

When it does indeed start this one will open as the official thread.

Everyone be cordial and no cursing nor flaming when it does."

I'm guilty of breaking this too, just like pretty much everyone else in this thread, but your a mod, you should be stopping this, not participating. It's stuff like this that makes this forum such a bad enviroment for debate.


I think it's time I went back to some real political debate forums.


Bye, Stu.

[shartley]

Originally posted by pbstu
CB is right, i dont know any political debaters that consider fox news a worthy news source, except of course on this forum .


Stu.

[Collegeboy]

Originally posted by FactsOfLife


Why not? You just did.

I was making a joke hence the . Maybe next time I need to do this (THE PRECEDING IS A JOKE) is that better.


Cphillip. Are you just looking for anything to support your claim that Al Queda and Iraq are directly connected? This evidence was found in a village outside of Baghdad, in the middle of no where. The US troops just happened to go into the building and wam there goes the entire evidence that justifies this entire war. I wouldn't think you were so gullible.

[FactsOfLife]

Originally posted by Collegeboy



I was making a joke hence the . Maybe next time I need to do this (THE PRECEDING IS A JOKE) is that better.

That is NOT why I said what I said.

[Collegeboy]

Are you talking about the Fox News thing?

I don't know, I haven't yet to find one good article from Fox News that I can use in any of my arguments. Using an article from Fox News would be like using an article from News Max. Far right wackos that try and push their own agenda. But I still watch Fox News and read their reports for you never know they might actually one day through their bias away and get to the truth. So I have not thrown Fox News completely away, I just haven't found anything form them yet that I can use.

[FactsOfLife]

Originally posted by Collegeboy
Are you talking about the Fox News thing?

I don't know, I haven't yet to find one good article from Fox News that I can use in any of my arguments. Using an article from Fox News would be like using an article from News Max. Far right wackos that try and push their own agenda. But I still watch Fox News and read their reports for you never know they might actually one day through their bias away and get to the truth. So I have not thrown Fox News completely away, I just haven't found anything form them yet that I can use.

What you call bias the vast majority of people who watch cable new call balance.

And on the War front, NEXT STOP BAGHDAD!

[Collegeboy]

If the majority of the people think the crap Fox News spits out is balanced then this country is going to hell.

Let's just hope Dubya doesn't have to call up 100,000 more.

[FactsOfLife]

Originally posted by Collegeboy
If the majority of the people think the crap Fox News spits out is balanced then this country is going to hell.

Let's just hope Dubya doesn't have to call up 100,000 more.

Your ignorance is still astounding.

[cphilip]

Originally posted by Collegeboy
Cphillip. Are you just looking for anything to support your claim that Al Queda and Iraq are directly connected?

I never made that claim. And I do not have to support any such claim. I could care less if they chose to develope splinter cells and name themselves whatever they want. They are all Militant Muslim Extremest with the same basic goal. I don't care what a terrorist group choses to call itself but if its wanting to kill Americans I am aganst it and consider it an enemy. You seem to think if it doesn't go by the same name it shouldn't be a target. I do not agree with that. I do not feel any link at all has to be made. If its goal is to kill and terrorize Americans and its allies its an enemy and fair game. Its enough reason for me.

Stu if you can't stand the heat then quit cryin and stay out. Once I allowed this thread to exist it was outside of the rules the gloves come off. And I will point out that You and CB turned this into a political motivation discussion. You will not win an argument by resorting to acting the injured and damaged one. Lemme see da facts!

[cphilip]

Originally posted by Collegeboy
Are you talking about the Fox News thing?

I don't know, I haven't yet to find one good article from Fox News that I can use in any of my arguments. Using an article from Fox News would be like using an article from News Max. Far right wackos that try and push their own agenda. But I still watch Fox News and read their reports for you never know they might actually one day through their bias away and get to the truth. So I have not thrown Fox News completely away, I just haven't found anything form them yet that I can use.

The reason you cannot find anything is there is nothing to support you out there that is credible. This is the danger of chosing a position on Political grounds and then scrambling around trying to find a way to support your already chosen position. Rather than get the facts FIRST and then chose a postition...

[Jack_Dubious]

I agree this thread should get back to news of the invasion at hand....with that said..

Fox News is as fair and balanced as CNN, MSNBC, the BBC, etc. By watching/reading them all (al-jazeera included) you can get a relatively good picture of whats real or not.

Im starting to not believe in any left wing/right wing media conspiracy....the media agencies have thier own agenda and I doubt it falls within any specific political line. They just want ratings.


JDub

[cphilip]

Good points Jack. Watch them all and try and sift out the chaf.

[Collegeboy]

Originally posted by cphilip



The reason you cannot find anything is there is nothing to support you out there that is credible. This is the danger of chosing a position on Political grounds and then scrambling around trying to find a way to support your already chosen position. Rather than get the facts FIRST and then chose a postition...

Sorry I let the evidence speak for my case. I don't find articles that support my ideas. I let evidence and history decide my opinion.