September 11... 1973?

[SlartyBartFast]

Originally posted by 1stdeadeye
[B]Originally posted by SlartyBartFast
Actually no they were not. That is how Massoiu was caught.

Whatever. :o I'll concede part of the point. Still weren't two of the 'pilots' given extended visa just before it happened?

And anyways, fake IDs or not, it was US immigration that bungled, Americans that helped them in.....

The issue still stands that 9/11, Okalahoma City, Militia Groups, Suburban Snipers, are all US problems allowed by US government bungling. Whether the cuase is internal or external, if the internal agencies were doing their job correctly the events would not have happened.

Tell us how to run our country and make up our minds when you figure out how to run yours....

[1stdeadeye]

Originally posted by SlartyBartFast
And anyways, fake IDs or not, it was US immigration that bungled, Americans that helped them in.....

No they were helped by CRIMINALS!!!

The issue still stands that 9/11, Okalahoma City, Militia Groups, Suburban Snipers, are all US problems allowed by US government bungling. Whether the cuase is internal or external, if the internal agencies were doing their job correctly the events would not have happened.

It was not our bungling government that allowed this to happen. It was the freedoms that we allow our citizens and residents. Sure we could defeat all crime and never be subject to a terrorist attack again, but I really don't feel like living in a police state.

These terrorists/criminals are trying to use the very freedom we enjoy to destroy us. Well the terrorists figured wrong! We did not shrink back after 9/11. The sleeping giant awoke again and began kicking butt again. Hell we should not have stopped with Iraq and Afghanistan.
There are still plenty in the Muslim Radical world that need to learn that messing with the US is like playing with fire. Sooner or later you are gonna get burned!

Tell us how to run our country and make up our minds when you figure out how to run yours....

Who is telling you how to run your country? We are just ridiculing it!

[steveg]

1st perhaps it time to stop cluttering up everyones theads
with that stupid tiresome and meaningless sign.

actually no BS at all your guys were actually doing THEIR
jobs for a change. I did say IN did I not?

Stop scape-goating every-one else and deal with your own peoples incompetence .

and "facts" if you had typed 100 miles instead of 10
we would be ok with that but you didn't.

now i'll stick a smiley here so that I to can pretend
that it was said as good natured teasing (actually it is)

[SlartyBartFast]

Originally posted by 1stdeadeye
No they were helped by CRIMINALS!!!
....
It was not our bungling government that allowed this to happen.

Criminals or not they were AMERICAN criminals. Not illegal immigrants aided by Canadian government policy.

As a rebuttal to the rest,read this .

As for ridiculing, people in glass houses etc...

[Albinonewt]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by SlartyBartFast


Nope. Because that trade went to Europe.



SO you're telling me that no ships made in what later became the American colonies used Canadian Timber.

And that not a single person in Canada smoked Tobacco?

Ok, sure.

[Albinonewt]

Originally posted by SlartyBartFast
Remeber ALL of the 9/11 hijackers were living in the US with all the necessary visas and permissions. Clean up your own mess before telling us we should deal with ours.

Why can't everyone work on their respective messes at the same time?

It has to be perfect here before Canada will even consider doing anything?

And if so, why even bother on fixing naything here if Canada will refuse to help?

[1stdeadeye]

Originally posted by SlartyBartFast


Criminals or not they were AMERICAN criminals. Not illegal immigrants aided by Canadian government policy.

As a rebuttal to the rest,read this .

As for ridiculing, people in glass houses etc...

Yeah I guess the one from Newark who was deported to Egypt was an American accessory, eh?

[1stdeadeye]

Originally posted by steveg
1st perhaps it time to stop cluttering up everyones theads
with that stupid tiresome and meaningless sign.

I think it is funny

actually no BS at all your guys were actually doing THEIR
jobs for a change. I did say IN did I not?



Stop scape-goating every-one else and deal with your own peoples incompetence .

I am not scapegoating anyone. I am simply stating that both sides have things to work on. It is not an America only issue!

[SlartyBartFast]

Originally posted by Albinonewt
SO you're telling me that no ships made in what later became the American colonies used Canadian Timber.

And that not a single person in Canada smoked Tobacco?

Ok, sure.

You really aren't getting this are you.

Why would the American colonies get timber sent to them when they had forests surrounding them?

Why would Canadians have tobbacco shipped to them when they had it growing near by?

These were local products in both sets of colonies that were exported to Europe, not traded amongst the colonies.

The trade routes that brought these products to port to be shipped to Europe were developed from the coastal/waterway settlements. The American colonies expanded inland with product carried to the coast or down the Mississppi. The Canadian inland colonies sent everything to Montreal where it was loaded into ships for Europe. The Maritime colonies used their own ports.

[FactsOfLife]

Originally posted by steveg
and "facts" if you had typed 100 miles instead of 10
we would be ok with that but you didn't.

now i'll stick a smiley here so that I to can pretend
that it was said as good natured teasing (actually it is)

actually I DID mean to type 100 and NOT 10 miles. 10 miles is not geographically possible with the enormous populations of toronto and montreal on the waterways that separate the countries.

[SlartyBartFast]

Originally posted by 1stdeadeye
Yeah I guess the one from Newark who was deported to Egypt was an American accessory, eh?

If you're referring to the Canadian I think you are, the Canadian government protested that deportation.

If my memory serves, the person in question hadn't lived in Egypt for years and was only in Newark to get a connecting flight home to Canada.

Unfortunately the Media is too busy building hype and sensationalising to give follow-ups to many stories.

[Eric Cartman]

I suppose this is where you tell me how the great Canadian medical research industry has invented, what?

...well insulin for one. http://inventors.about.com/gi/dynami...s/insulin.html
There might be a few American diabetics who are pretty happy about that one.
I find this all kind of amusing. As far as people go, there's really no difference between most Canadians and Americans. We've both had our fair share of embarrasments running our countries. You guys had Richard "I am not a crook" Nixon and Bill "I did not have sexual relations with that woman" Clinton and we've had such fools as Pierre Trudeau (our dollar was worth more than yours before this guy came along) and Cretien was his finance minister! He's a complete embarassment. Judging a people by the jerks that run the country in which they live is shear folly.
Americans and Canadians have always enjoyed making fun of each other and have a rivalry much like what exists between brothers. Ridicule the French Canadians all you want, but go spend a weekend in Montreal (cough) Chez Parie (cough)and see if you still feel the same way afterwards. In much the same way, I'd probably cut down on the "Darwin's waiting room" type fo jokes if I actually spent some time in the Ozarks... well maybe not!

Let's just keep the rivalry friendly.

p.s.
We have much better beer!

[Pokaris]

When Quebec tried to secede didn't something like 6 provinces draft resolutions to join the US?

[SlartyBartFast]

Originally posted by Pokaris
When Quebec tried to secede didn't something like 6 provinces draft resolutions to join the US?

You REALLY don't know much about Canadian politics.
Don't know where you got that gem from.

[Miscue]

In my opinion... Canada is cold.