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  • RT pRo AuToMaG
    (un)official MatrixDM4Tech
    • Mar 2002
    • 1000

    #46
    Being forced to go into the military/do community service would be idiotic. I, for one, am a lazy ***, and I would not do anything even if I had to. Why force people, it will cause even more problems, and it may even ruin some people's careers. I don't want to waste a year or two of my life doing something I hate.
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    • Zumina
      What Are You Looking At?
      • Jan 2001
      • 2081

      #47
      Originally posted by Pacifist_Farmer
      no draft is a good draft
      I'd agree only in the context of another Vietnam War/Wang-Waving war of attrition.
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      • Zumina
        What Are You Looking At?
        • Jan 2001
        • 2081

        #48
        "I don't think the military requires you to graduate from High School or have a GED to join."


        yes they do
        And you have to "pass" an entrance exam to be admitted.
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        • Zygote
          CADmonkey
          • Apr 2002
          • 419

          #49
          If nothing else it might help our national fatty problem.
          "Anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities has the power to make you commit injustices." - Voltaire

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          • logamus
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            • Dec 2002
            • 2346

            #50


            if you are currently enrolled in school im pretty sure you can be drafted
            not at present. there is no draft in place currently. you still have to register with the selective service and mantain your correct address with them until you turn 26 (only the guys btw) but there is no draft.


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            • Rooster
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              • Oct 2000
              • 1069

              #51
              The whole community service idea makes this idea nothing more than a national work program. That doesn't make sense on many levels. First, we are still dealing with the ill effects of the new deal, the last national work program. If you want manditory military service to train a national defense force, or create a pool of able-bodied men for future conflicts, I am all for the idea in principle. But everyone would do military time, and it doesn't matter what your beleifs are about fighting. If you don't want to shoot someone, you can be a medic.

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              • Zumina
                What Are You Looking At?
                • Jan 2001
                • 2081

                #52
                Originally posted by Rooster
                If you want manditory military service to train a national defense force, or create a pool of able-bodied men for future conflicts, I am all for the idea in principle. But everyone would do military time, and it doesn't matter what your beleifs are about fighting. If you don't want to shoot someone, you can be a medic.
                Alright, so let's put ALL of the nation's future innovators, inventors, leaders, and researchers in potential danger. The only people that should be in the military should WANT to be there.
                Shoot it like you stole it!

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                • logamus
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                  • Dec 2002
                  • 2346

                  #53
                  Originally posted by Zumina
                  The only people that should be in the military should WANT to be there.
                  i totally agree.


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                  • Chojin Man
                    toodle
                    • Dec 2003
                    • 1229

                    #54
                    Originally posted by Zumina


                    Alright, so let's put ALL of the nation's future innovators, inventors, leaders, and researchers in potential danger. The only people that should be in the military should WANT to be there.
                    That's why it was mentoned that you would have a choice to either serve in the military or do community service. For all of the people that couldn't or didn't want to go into military service.

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                    • Zumina
                      What Are You Looking At?
                      • Jan 2001
                      • 2081

                      #55
                      Originally posted by Rooster
                      But everyone would do military time, and it doesn't matter what your beleifs are about fighting. If you don't want to shoot someone, you can be a medic.
                      Shoot it like you stole it!

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                      • The Deacon
                        Team 10th Mountain
                        • Jun 2003
                        • 542

                        #56
                        Originally posted by Zygote
                        If nothing else it might help our national fatty problem.
                        What about those of us who like being fat? It's a lifestyle choice, don't discriminate, skinny!

                        Forced community service/military service is dumb. This is a capitalist society, I thought you republican types would want the people fresh out of college to be toiling under their corporate masters ASAP, and not concerned about training for war when we've already got the biggest army on earth or trying to avoid the cops because they didn't feel like doing their community service. We've already got overflowing jails as it is.

                        America is all about freedom, and not forced work/service.
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                        • pbzmag
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                          • Feb 2002
                          • 1468

                          #57
                          Originally posted by Chojin Man
                          I don't think the military requires you to graduate from High School or have a GED to join.
                          Last time I heard, you can not enter with a GED. It must be a high school diploma, minimum.

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                          • Rooster
                            Registered User
                            • Oct 2000
                            • 1069

                            #58
                            "Alright, so let's put ALL of the nation's future innovators, inventors, leaders, and researchers in potential danger. The only people that should be in the military should WANT to be there."

                            Potential danger? The only thing that is dangerous is not knowing how to deal with danger. Your argument holds absolutely no merit. A person is far more likely to die from a car crash than to die in the service. Should all children be kept out of cars becuase one might be the next Einstein?

                            The fact that you are afraid of being in the military has tainted your argument.

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                            • Chojin Man
                              toodle
                              • Dec 2003
                              • 1229

                              #59
                              Originally posted by Rooster
                              A person is far more likely to die from a car crash than to die in the service. Should all children be kept out of cars becuase one might be the next Einstein?
                              You are really comparing apples to oranges. Considering how many more millions and millions of people drive a car than serve in the military. Now if you were comparing percentages thats different, but I doubt that you were. It's the same thing as saying paintball is safer than playing golf. Golf has more injuries than paintball per year, but lots more people play golf than paintball. So you really can't compare the two in that manner.

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                              • 1stdeadeye
                                Still around????
                                • Jun 2002
                                • 8501

                                #60
                                I think Rooster is dead on with that analogy. How many service people die in the line of duty or in training accidents? Very few! That is why it makes the news each time it happens. How many thousands die in accidents each year on our roads? Does every one of those make the national news?

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