Assualt weapon ban voted down..

[Dragonfd3s]

That last sentence your judging w/o much knowledge. I know several Democrats that love their guns. I know I'm not the only one in this country either. Yes there are some democrats that are for this ban, I bet there are some republicans (in office or not) that might be for it. In fact I'm quite often considered a liberal (minority on this board) but what people fail to realize is that not all liberal's are the same. No matter what some of you might think.

Perhaps you didn't see the "Usually" ie. "Majority" ie. "Not all but a larger %age of"

I was in the Army Reserves for 4 years and Active duty Army for 11 1/2 years. I was a Armorer for the last 8 of my active duty years and when I move back to the USA I intend to buy a AR15 because it is based on the M16. I put out groups the size of a dime with it at 25 meters and the size of a pie pan at 300 meters with open sights. It's light weight, accurate and would make a excellent small game rife. People only want to ban it because it looks like what the military uses, not because of what it really is.

Anything that throws a bullet can kill and more people are killed every year by wussy .22 long rifle rounds in cheap handguns and rifles than any other round there is. For this reason banning a rifle because it has a bayonet lug or heat shroud on the barrel is about as dumb as the people who though it up. When was the last time you saw somebody run in to a public place with a bayonet attached to a assault (military looking) rife and start stabbing people or thought to your self "O my god he can shoot a couple hundred rounds out of that thing and not burn his hand" or "If they shoot at me during the night I won't be able to tell where it's coming from because he has a flash suppressor". It all comes down to one thing "Ignorant People."

[Muzikman]

so you're saying the amendment wasn't created in an effort to stop possible foreign invasion by the british?

then explain why the quartering of troops amendment is in there...which is obviously DIRECTLY linked to foreign invasion.

Actually, the quartering of troops is in there because of the British, but from what happened in the past, not what will happen in the future. Think about it... It means that the US governament would not forcefully tell a civilian that they have to house US troops. If the British were to invade and want to take up quarters in some US civilians house, do you think they are going to go...oh no, we can't do that it's in THEIR constitution. Think about it for a minute...

[FactsOfLife]

That last sentence your judging w/o much knowledge. I know several Democrats that love their guns. I know I'm not the only one in this country either. Yes there are some democrats that are for this ban, I bet there are some republicans (in office or not) that might be for it. In fact I'm quite often considered a liberal (minority on this board) but what people fail to realize is that not all liberal's are the same. No matter what some of you might think.

If he had said Brain Dead Liberals he'd have been spot on.

99% of the Dems in congress voted for the ban.

The only Republicans that voted for it are borderline Democrats...

[rehme]

You need to watch shot size in that shotgun if you live in a subdivision.

00 buck can and will easily penetrate walls and can go through your neighbors house.

You're better off with #5-6 shot. Still lethal up close, less likely to have penetration problems.

well i would rather prefer milo loaded in a 12 gauge. of coarse it is not as deadly but you will keep them alive with an extreme amount of pain because the milo splits under the skin and is undeteable.

[Southpaw]

I was under the impression that you would rather have a high powered pistol to protect yourself in your home. A long rifle would be rather unwieldy in a CQB situation. Crooks have long stated that they would rather go against a man w/ a big as rifle he had swing around then a guy with a pistol that could line up shots faster.

I also thought getting shot by a handgun in close range sucks more, mainly because

1. The bullet doesn't alway come out
2. The bullet if it does come out, comes out as a big flatened mass that makes a big *** exit wound.
3. Rifles go out cleaner at close range.

Is this right?

Hand guns ARE part of this ban too. The ban limited the manufacture and importation of any clip that can hold more than 10 rounds. Now the funny thing is that handgun manufactures decided to make smaller handguns that could only accept 10 rounds. So when they banned "assault weapons" they indirectly made handguns MORE concealable.

[trains are bad]

Gun control is evil. I mean that in a very serious way.

So many are willing to trade loads of very real and important freedoms for the illusion of safety.

[Army]

Just to clarify;
An Assault Rifle, by definition, MUST have the ability to switch from semi (or single shot) auto mode, to fully automatic.

Anything else is simply a semi automatic, military look-alike rifle.

Technically, any bill or law that calls these rifles "Assault", is moot and unenforceable. Full-auto weapons have been federally controlled since 1934, requiring a permit and license for citizens to own, sell, and/or possess them in any manner.

Someone brought up the point of a hunting rifle is all we should have. All bolt action hunting rifles in regular use today, came from the original genius of Peter Paul Mauser, who designed the famous Mauser rifles for MILITARY USE. The ability to rapidly re-load a rifle was revolutionary, and was considered the "assault rifle" of it's day.....130 years ago.

The 2nd Amend says "arms", not guns. This means ANY weapon you use to defend home and country is included. Remove the 2nd, and all knives, swords, axes, picks, baseball bats, and shovels can legally be taken from you.