wenuliveudie, they represent the school, the academic kids dont. that may not be fair, but thats how it works. in my opinion they do deserve it. kids that sit down and study for 4 hours have the capacity to do so, and it is also their choice. what u said was that it is an athletes choice to play a sport, well its also someones choice to take AP classes. u cant be hypocritical like that
Athletes should not get special treatment!
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Verbatim what I was going to say, exactly.Originally posted by sharpshooter1286
wenuliveudie, they represent the school, the academic kids dont. that may not be fair, but thats how it works. in my opinion they do deserve it. kids that sit down and study for 4 hours have the capacity to do so, and it is also their choice. what u said was that it is an athletes choice to play a sport, well its also someones choice to take AP classes. u cant be hypocritical like thatSemper Fidelis
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That's bunk. I was in band for all of highschool. I think it was fair to say that we represented the school too. We practiced for much longer periods of time in respect to how much field time we got. We must have practiced 10-15 hours per week for only 10 minutes on the feild. Plus we went to competitions outside of football. Not to mention that what we were doing turned around to another useble skill in the off season: Concert band, which had it's own set of competitions. Not to mention the people who were also working on solos or small ensamble's for competition.Originally posted by -Carnifex-
Atheletes do represent the school; they should get special treatment, except for grades.
Most of these people were also AP students, and some of us held down jobs as well.
Did we get any special treatment? No. True we had a few excused absences during contest days, but anybody in an extracurricular activity got those.
There's a difference between capability and special treatment. Those of us in band did what we could because we were capeable of it. If you failed you didn't play. You HAD to be capable of both. Getting special treatment because you're capable of a certian physicall activity just isn't right.
Yes I realise that there's a buisness aspect to it. I wish there wasn't and I believe that's an aspect of our education system that needs to change.
The sad thing about it is that it doesn't end in HS. I'm a Senior in college right now and the special treatment here is even worse than in HS. If this were a private school I don't think I'd really have room to complain, but this is a public college and it's driving me nuts.
An example: I'm in a freshman level Art Appreciation class. One of the easiest classes I've taken yet. I can finish the tests in 10 minutes or less and make an A. I know for a fact that one of the jocks in the class cheated, I saw him do it, and did inform the professor. He didn't get in any trouble that I know of and he still made a poor grade. It's sad. I really can't wait till I get a real job where I get treated according to my performance and ability (at least more so than in school).
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Originally posted by Rooster
"I think it was fair to say that we represented the school too."
LOL! Come back to reality."What we have to accomplish at this time is all the more clear: relentless criticism of all existing conditions, relentless in the sense that the criticism is not afraid of its findings and just as little afraid of the conflict with the powers that be."
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Band did represent my high school. My band will kick your bands ***. Then again so will all of our other sports, we just got some cool songs. They don't compete either except for concert. But who cares? You don't see people going out of their way to ask how the band did.
Athletes don't get much special treatment here. When I didn't make grades, I didn't wrestle. Starting varsity too. Same with football. They just get a little more respect by some people.
It's kinda gay to rat somebody out like that though.
In college though it is a whole different story and they do deserve special treatment. When you spend 8 hours a day workin out and pukin, then tell me if they deserve breaks. And above all they make money. Band doesn't make money. Some bands do, and some are given special treatment.Comment
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I see that this thread has filled with people who seem to be single minded in thier views. I have tried to read and comprehend everybody's veiws on things. Some of ya'll don't seem to be willing to do the same.
Oh well. Society is going to hell, but I'm sure that's said every generation.
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Originally posted by -Carnifex-
Atheletes do represent the school
I represented my school in history competition a few years back(it was kind of like jepoardy, but I didn't get anything). The day I was supposed to go to it was the same day I had a paper due in English. I had to turn my paper a day early. The same day, the lacrosse team was taking a trip to play a game about an hour away. The lacrosse players in my English class got to turn the paper in the day afterwards.
I spent 5 weeks staying afterschool everyday for 3 hours a day preparing for this. The lacrosse team practiced 3 times a week for 2 hours a day for 2 weeks leading up to the game. They also voluntarily joined the team with the understanding it would take up time from their day. I was required to go to this and despite my efforts to talk my way out, had to go. The lacrosse team got a special dinner at the end of the year for their efforts. I got an award mailed to me september of the school year after the competition.
Was that fair? NO
I worked just as hard, if not harder than they did. I was required to attend, whereas they were not.
Athletes don't HAVE to play sports. They chose to with the understanding they will have to sacrifice their time for it.
Note to athletes who think they deserve slack for being able to run fast or throw things with accuracy....Your skills are useless in the long run. Have fun bagging my groceries!
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You represented your team in a History competition, something, which very few people know / care about, whereas sports are the opposite.
Edit: Also, atheletic skill is no useless in the long run."What we have to accomplish at this time is all the more clear: relentless criticism of all existing conditions, relentless in the sense that the criticism is not afraid of its findings and just as little afraid of the conflict with the powers that be."
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Oh ok, so basically it comes down to popularity? Because everyone enjoys what you do on your freetime, you deserve extra help. Whereas because not many people enjoy what I am forced to do, I don't deserve extra help?Comment
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it is if you bag groceries for a living.Originally posted by -Carnifex-
Edit: Also, atheletic skill is no useless in the long run.Comment
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Originally posted by Python14
Oh ok, so basically it comes down to popularity? Because everyone enjoys what you do on your freetime, you deserve extra help. Whereas because not many people enjoy what I am forced to do, I don't deserve extra help?
It comes down to them representing the school and you not. If you want special treatment join a sports team."What we have to accomplish at this time is all the more clear: relentless criticism of all existing conditions, relentless in the sense that the criticism is not afraid of its findings and just as little afraid of the conflict with the powers that be."
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I can't play school sports because I have chronic knee joint fluid buildups. So for health reasons I can't.
Eitherway, I lose respect for people when they think playing a sport entitles them to something beyond the pleasure of playing the sport.
BTW, you were right. Being able to grab a skinsack from between a large mans legs and look for a tight end to score will really help you when you have to reach under the counter to get more plastic bags for my groceries.
SET...HIKE....Your total comes out to $74.35, do you have a Kroger plus card?
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im sry, am i the only one that forgot about how being talented in sports can really take u places? what about pro sports? they get payed millions.
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