Afghan Massacre: Convey of Death

[Kitheril]

Taylor,

True. CNN may be all you recieve on TV, but checking on other sources of media throughout the world gives another perspective. I watch CNN all the time, but combine it with other news sources.

As for the last poster, I think its past your bed time. Or better yet, go post on Pbnation.com

[ubooze]

So what your trying to push is that because they saw it happening and didn't act, they are just as guilty?

I think not.

Remeber WW2? You know the first coutry to get hit, Poland, right? Who came to save them? Nobody, are we also at fault? Is Britain, France, and Russia at fault? According to you, yes, but nobody is making a big fuss about it. Why? Cause its just Poland. But low and behold here are Afghanis killing other people. And just because they are our allies and supposedly U.S. troops watched them do it all the blame is on the U.S. Give me a break. Who are the witnesses? I doubt anyone who is worth listening to.

Just because some people around me are stupid, and I watch them profess their stupidity, and do nothing to stop them does not mean I am stupid. Their arguement is pointless. Whe will benefit from this? I see only haters of the U.S. and those bloody terrorists gaining from this. They would only have more of a reason to act as they do if this idiocy was somehow falsely proven.

And besides, we can't forget that what goes around comes around.

[bleachit]

Taylor,


As for the last poster, I think its past your bed time. Or better yet, go post on Pbnation.com

dont post on pbn, and I dont go to bed for another six hours... its attitudes like yours that makes me hate canada and most of Europe.

[Cryer]

Its not like you had a really good attitude in your post, either bud. Where are you from? I think I'll start hating Niagra Falls New York because of your post.

[Kitheril]

Throughout the whole thread, you were the only one to give some semblence of an "attitude". I can honestly say I've enjoyed debating with the rest of the people on this thread.

Your comments of "sucky military", and bad grammer shows you have no true understanding of the events of past or present.

Yes, Canada does not have a powerful military. Why? It is not a nation that needs one. Its foreign policy does not state intervention through military has a goal. However, we do have JTF 2, which is a force equal to the best in the world. Which did most of the combat (if I'm not mistaken) in Afghanistan.

As for your hatred of Europe and Canada. I'm sorry to hear.

[taylor492]

No, Ill stick with CNN.

Now what u need to do is calm down and leave it alone. Whats with this digging up of dirty little secrets? I have strong feelings about the conflicts in the Middle East, but im not obsessed with it. Its war. People dont follow the rules. Some people try(U.S., coalition forces)and some don't(everyone else)

You seem hell bent on finding out every little misdoing, or injustice. I'm not denying that they dont happen, i just dont let it bother me. We try our best to follow the rules of war but when u fight people with raw, basic human instincts, you're gonna get a little muddy.

[taylor492]

Now look what u made me do. Ive been posting on this thread for so long im late closing the golf course

[Cryer]

Now look what u made me do. Ive been posting on this thread for so long im late closing the golf course

Overtime! :o

[oldsoldier]

Just to chime in...I honestly didnt read this whole thread, nor can I DL any of the video on it...but, from the gist of what I read...someone NOT in the military has to understand something; sometimes, from the outside looking in, you get a clearer view than if you were there. Also, they have their ROE, which may have FORBADE them from firing. I am not condoning the atrocity, nor am I taking a side in this. It is just that, as no one here was there, and I know for a FACT, that there is NO SUCH THING as accurate reporting...we can only make our assessments after the fact.

[taylor492]

Overtime! :o

Nope
Just cuts into hitting range balls time.

[1stdeadeye]

Anyone who believes CNN is a clear source of information is clearly mistaken.

Here we agree!

They are killing your soliders. Yes. Those soliders however are killing people. Its a two way street. Both sides lose something.

The difference lies in the intent. Our soldiers are there under strict rules of engagement. They do not plant bombs and kill indiscrimintly! They are their to provide security and not to kill! So intent is the difference between us and them!

And, what does being Canadian have anything to do with our debate here. Pretend I'm something else. You seem more dedicated on the fact that I'm Canadian then the topic at hand.

Only if you are French Canadian!


Where exactly do the holes lie? Please state your case. As for air, holes were shot into the containers, while the prisoners were inside. Thus explaining partially why there were dead within the containers.

Bodies make great bullet stops! Also if these were airtight containers, they were probably refrigerator cars and not the thin aluminum trailers we see on the highways. It did not say that bullet holes allowed air into the trailers.

Also after 4 days inside sealed trailers, they would have been too week to stand without water. Also, if there were no survivors, how can your source definitively say that they survived by drinking the blood of the dead? That is a pretty big hole, eh?

Got to love revisionist history. Make up what you want as there are NO survivors to dispute it!

Did I did not state America is perfect. Hell, I'm not even attacking America. I'm attacking your points that your making, which are hardly relevant at all.

Well you are holding US troops accountable for something they did not do, so if the shoe fits......

[PyRo]

It did say somewhere that the bullet holes were for air. There are a whole bunch of holes in the story.

[Rooster]

Ah the crying liberal, spouting inane platitudes like "America has it coming". My simple little friend, you have seen nothing yet. No country on this planet has felt the true sting of American power. No one attacks us, threatens to attack us, or looks at us cross-eyed without feeling the sting, but no one has felt the full force yet. Afghanistan was an object lesson. You harbor those who hurt us, and you will pay a terrible price.

That might hurt the liberals' feelings, but at this point, nobody cares about your kind anymore, just another capitulating pacifist looking for the next enemy to roll over for.

[Kitheril]

I was waiting for a "holier than thou" person to come along sometime. You speak as though nothing can harm you and your make-belief security blanket. You scream ignorance.

Terrorism will never go away. That is the sad truth. There is always someone willing to die for a cause. And terrorism is all in perspective.

You sir, don't understand that. Yes, you will make those persons responsible, pay a great price. But so will your soliders. Its sad and terrible that their the ones that have to pay the price.

[1stdeadeye]

I was waiting for a "holier than thou" person to come along sometime. You speak as though nothing can harm you and your make-belief security blanket. You scream ignorance.

Naw Rooster just hasn't had his hug yet today!

Terrorism will never go away. That is the sad truth. There is always someone willing to die for a cause. And terrorism is all in perspective.

You sir, don't understand that. Yes, you will make those persons responsible, pay a great price. But so will your soliders. Its sad and terrible that their the ones that have to pay the price.

There are ways to end terrorism. The Romans did it in their time. The problem is that no one has the will to do it today. If you kill enough and crush a people completely, no terrorists will rise from them. Look at Carthage, when the Romans were done with it, no threat was left.

Also, back to your "news story". Where did all of the details of what went on inside the trailers come from if there were NO survivors. Please answer just this one point. This alone proves the director took dramatic license. What else did he take license with?