Afghan Massacre: Convey of Death

[taylor492]

I finally got a chance to watch the video and i had to turn it off...

That music is horrid, i couldnt stand it anymore

[FactsOfLife]

Terrorism cannot be beaten, even undergoing methods used effectively centuries before us.
Despite the undeniable power of America, do you truly think countries around the world would tolerate what effectively can be described as genocide? I don't.
What your doing is targeting specific races or religions. I would throw my wealth on the fact that in doing this, we would have World War III.

Love your attitude. Hey punch me again, I can't do anything about it!


It's limpwristed fools that think like you that encourage the terrorists in this world.


And in case you haven't noticed, we're alrady IN WW3.

Keep your abject hatred of my country to yourself. If you don't have the stomach to stand up to this menace from radical Islam then at least have the brains to stay out of the way.

[Ov3rmind]

Love your attitude. Hey punch me again, I can't do anything about it!


It's limpwristed fools that think like you that encourage the terrorists in this world.

I'm pretty sure us bombing Muslim countries is what encourages them.

And in case you haven't noticed, we're alrady IN WW3.

I sure as Hell haven't noticed.

Keep your abject hatred of my country to yourself. If you don't have the stomach to stand up to this menace from radical Islam then at least have the brains to stay out of the way.

I really didn't see him say he hated the US. And even if he did, who cares? It's not like Americans don't openly express their hatred of other countries.

[Restola]

No Americans fired a shot. But standing by and NOT intervening is clearly the same as pulling the trigger.

Why didn't Canada intervene?

I'm pretty sure us bombing Muslim countries is what encourages them.

I'm pretty sure its being America that encourages them. The fact that we let our women vote, that we don't torture and kill non-muslims, that we don't declare their religion law, and the fact that dispite this we don't live in mud huts and live in our own filth like they do.

I love the blame-America-first crowd.

[Ov3rmind]

I'm pretty sure its being America that encourages them. The fact that we let our women vote, that we don't torture and kill non-muslims, that we don't declare their religion law, and the fact that dispite this we don't live in mud huts and live in our own filth like they do.

I love the blame-America-first crowd.

Ah, I love this "they hate us because we're American" attitude. Take a look back at history, we haven't exactly been nice to that region of the world. The more we have done, the more pissed off they get. I doubt that's coincidence. We did infact instigate it. The US makes mistakes just like other countries, we aren't perfect.

[Konigballer]

1stDeadeye, I'm really glad you ain't running the show over in Iraq. Hypothetical or not, your advocating full on genocide in order for America to completely win a war on terror and its ludicrous, though kind of funny.

I really don't think we will win in Iraq, and I never did from the moment it started. I wish every conflict we fought was waged against westernized armies by conventional war with clear objectives and decisive victories. However, Iraq aint that and America, despite what a bunch of hippie foreigners say, is not the third reich. We're not even the america of
1944-'45 vintage who would gladly reduce whole cities, and their populations, to smoldering rubble if it would achieve victory. Your suggestions are'nt even in the realm of possibilities for America to implement in Iraq.

FactsOfLife- I havent seen anything in Kitheril's statements that showed "abject hatred" towards america, I think he is just voicing his views and you can never except anyone elses views if it doesnt fly in line with your own ideology. I don't even disagree with everything you say, I just think you are wound WAY too tight when arguing with anyone remotely critical of our country's policies. Cut back on the coffee and watch another movie besides Red Dawn

Actually, you can tell things are getting shakey on the "homefront" when you see how much more wary the ever optimistic Fox News broadcast are becoming. I've been watching it and even the very opinionated Bill O'Reilly was sounding very uneasy about the situation, and could'nt offer any of his own brilliant solutions to fix it. Thats almost a first I think. Even their little military advisor, the bald old guy with the gravely voice, could'nt offer anymore thought provoking ideas than "we cant win unless we change our tactics".......thanks for that brilliant military analysis Rommel

[1stdeadeye]

Ah, I love this "they hate us because we're American" attitude. Take a look back at history, we haven't exactly been nice to that region of the world. The more we have done, the more pissed off they get. I doubt that's coincidence. We did infact instigate it. The US makes mistakes just like other countries, we aren't perfect.

Okay first off, who attacked who first? We did not attack Afghanistan until after 9/11! Has there been another attack on American soil since we went full on into the war on Terrorism? Didn't think so. We were Pearl Harbored! They started the fight and now we are making them sit at the table they set and eat it!

As for Konigballer,
I said over and over again the I did not endorse or support it. I just said it was theoretically possible to do it once and for all. I see my disclaimers weren't enough, so let me restate my stance! I am all for changing the rules of engagement to allow our soldiers to strike harder and faster. I am against nuking whole populations and tracking down the survivors and exterminating them.

[1stdeadeye]

For all you haters out there, read a first hand review of Iraq now!

No filtering right from Army's mouth!

[PyRo]

At least the Japaneese had the balls to choose a military target, unlike a certain pansy named Osama.

[Rooster]

"Ah, I love this "they hate us because we're American" attitude. Take a look back at history, we haven't exactly been nice to that region of the world. The more we have done, the more pissed off they get. I doubt that's coincidence. We did infact instigate it. The US makes mistakes just like other countries, we aren't perfect."

LOL! The ignorance of the liberal astounds me. Its like speaking to plants, but perhaps plants have some level of intelligence. My little friend, we did nothing and they attacked us. We attacked them, and they ran like scared children to hide. I'm sorry that the liberal mind is too simple to understand logic, but these are the facts: Muslim extremists will pick on anyone they view as weak. They run and hide from anyone who is strong. They are a filthy waste of this planet's resources and deserve nothing but to be removed from existance, as quickly as possible. They aren't even human. The correct way to deal with them is to kill them all. If their family decides to become terrorists, we kill them too. If the rest of their country decides to become terrorists, we kill them too. If people within our own country decide to become terrorists, we kill them too. Eventually they will learn, or they will run out of people. I don't care which comes first.

[PyRo]

Round them all up and shoot em :)

[oldsoldier]

I did not say it was practical or a good thing. I only said it could be done.

Granted it would take a Naziesque mindset to do it, but it could be done. If it was done, the terrorism would last only as long as the group your hunting down does. So it is indeed possible to win the war on terror, just as it is to win the war on drugs. Send cropdusters to poison all of the fields were drugs are grown. Kill them at the source and their will be no more drugs! Again, you would kill many people wontonly spraying poison, but it could work.

Again here we are talking theoreticals, not my opinions or preferences!

Actually, we do have cropdusters in S.A. that do that...they get killed quite often. Most are ex-CIA and ex-military...they take the risk. Just wanted to point that out...not really relevant here.

[FactsOfLife]

FactsOfLife- I havent seen anything in Kitheril's statements that showed "abject hatred" towards america, I think he is just voicing his views and you can never except anyone elses views if it doesnt fly in line with your own ideology. I don't even disagree with everything you say, I just think you are wound WAY too tight when arguing with anyone remotely critical of our country's policies. Cut back on the coffee and watch another movie besides Red Dawn

If he had ANY clue as to why the Afghans are the way they are, he would have known that this was a BS attempt at pinning blame on the USA.


So yeah, I DO think he has an anti American agenda, and he can frigging stick it where the sun don't shine.

[Jeffy-CanCon]

Facts,
I don't know if kitheril has an anti-American agenda, but he has made anti-American comments n this thread, and I think unfairly. The USA's history is not a story of innocence and pure motives, but neither is Canada's, or any other countries.


kitheril,
Reread your own posts. You are as guilty of the "holier than thou" attitude you accuse Rooster of having. You are standing on a soapbox and pointing fingers of blame. And inappropriately, IMO. Observing a crime does not equate to guilt of that crime, even if you were in a position to stop it. At worst it would be "aiding and abetting". And there is no reason to beleive in this case, I think, that the US SF troops were in a position to control the actions of their Allies. Any more than our own Gen. Dallaire was able to stop the Rwandan genocide ten years ago. Do you hold him guilty for those deaths?


Rooster,
You say that "no country has felt the true sting of American power". What about Japan?
You also said that "muslim extremists will pick on anyone they view as weak". If that is true, why aren't they all attacking Africa? Lots of weak non-muslim countries there. Or even Canada, which is a wealthy liberal democracy like muslim extremists supposedly hate so much? I think you disrespect yor enemies when you assume they are all bloodthirsty madmen.


bleachit,
that was an unfair and inaccurate attack on the Canadian military. I would have expected a little more international awareness from someone living on the border. Our penny-pinching government may have slashed our defence budget, but it wasn't always that way. We pulled our weight and more in WW1 and WW2, and our modest contribution in Korea was respectable enough to win a Presidential Unit Citation from your own government.


1DE,
I agree with you more in this thread than probably anywhere else I have seen you post. :) I agree that any war is winnable if you have the will to see it through. Some of these threats and wars require actions that we as Westerners are not willing to carry out, but they remain a theoretical possibilty.
I even agree with you equating September 11th to Pearl Harbour. Both were nasty sneak attacks that changed America's view of the world. But I think it's important to remember that in both cases the attackers saw the attacks as a response to American policies harming their countries.

[PyRo]

Its more of a statement to go blowing things up in first world countries, rather than thrid world countries. And you know if might be harder to get into one of those african countries where guards are walking around the airports with AK47's, and don't need a whole lot of reason to arrest or even shoot someone.