Consequences for stealing wood in Iraq (video clip)

[Kai]

Apparently you aren't familiar with the forms of punishment a LOT of arab countries like to impose for theft....

they cut your hand off for the first offense.

It shouldn't matter what "a LOT of arab countries" would do. Saying that it's a better punishment than they would receive elsewhere is hardly justification.

Edit- Also... Saying that the punishment was not extreme is just being ridiculous. It's great that you are such blind supporters of the war effort...

[pbzmag]

Apparently you aren't familiar with the forms of punishment a LOT of arab countries like to impose for theft....

they cut your hand off for the first offense.

I'd hate to think what the punishment for rape is!

[tyrion2323]

Wow,

First off - Rooster - Stealing wood is not all the same. Perhaps they were stealing wood in order to make a fire so that they could warm their house...which was demolished by Bush's bombs. It's not like they snuck into an American compound and tried to make off with a rocket launcher. It's freakin' wood.

Secondly, to those who think that this punishment is fair and accurate, I'm scared to see what sort of regime you would impose if you were given the leadership of a country. Just because "other arab countries" do it does NOT make it okay for us to do it. That just thins the line between our morality and the morality of Saddam Hussein. I guess you guys wouldn't mind if US GIs raped Iraqi women because "hey, the Arabs did it."

This video gives us an image of the strong and the weak. The US soldiers obviously have the power here - they have tanks and guns, while these Iraqis are huddled together watching their car be crushed. It's not like these Iraqis had any chance of escaping in their car. What we're shown here is a great example of the fact that the United States DOESN"T ACTUALLY KNOW WHAT IT'S DOING in Iraq. We have soldiers who aren't actually enforcing laws, but are torturing prisoners and running over cars.

Bush's Administration is a bunch of morons who didn't think before entering Iraq. Just like Afghanistan, we're raping a counrty and leaving it to fend for itself. Greed is a powerful thing.

[Ov3rmind]

They ruined the man's life because he stole wood. Not only that, they laughed about the situation. ****ing disgusting.

[barberjohn]

link no-worky.

[PyRo]

They ruined the man's life because he stole wood. Not only that, they laughed about the situation. ****ing disgusting.

Sadam would have had him shot and thrown the body into a pit with other executed thieves. Under whose rule did he make out better?

[tyrion2323]

Pyro, you obviously haven't read the entire post, or you would have seen:

Just because "other arab countries" do it does NOT make it okay for us to do it. That just thins the line between our morality and the morality of Saddam Hussein. I guess you guys wouldn't mind if US GIs raped Iraqi women because "hey, the Arabs did it."

Bush claims that our secondary objective during "Operation Iraqi Freedom" (BULL CRAP!) was to liberate the Iraqis from the terror laws that Saddam held over their heads. Now we find that Americans are beginning to recreate these sorts of punishments.

[Rooster]

"Stealing wood is not all the same. Perhaps they were stealing wood in order to make a fire so that they could warm their house...which was demolished by Bush's bombs. It's not like they snuck into an American compound and tried to make off with a rocket launcher. It's freakin' wood. "

I don't care if they were stealing wood to cook soup for GIs or set a broken leg. Its still theft. But its nice to see the bleeding hearts are still as niave and stupid as ever.

[tyrion2323]

I'm hardly a bleeding heart, Rooster. But I don't stick my head in the sand and ignore everything which is contrary to my beliefs. That seems to be your method of approaching the situation.

I believe that Americans should be held to a higher standard. Do you disagree?

Also, do you believe that an American, caught in say...Ohio, stealing wood should have his car destroyed?

Jacob

[MayAMonkeyBeYourPinata]

"The guys stole...wood. Wood. Not a freaking weapon. "

Stealing is stealing. It doesn't matter if you steal a dollar or a million, you are still a thief.

But, in the good ole USA if you steal a dollar you get a little slap, on the wrist you steal a million you get jail time. In both cases you stole and are a thief, but the punishment needs to match the crime.

[PyRo]

Pyro, you obviously haven't read the entire post, or you would have seen:



Bush claims that our secondary objective during "Operation Iraqi Freedom" (BULL CRAP!) was to liberate the Iraqis from the terror laws that Saddam held over their heads. Now we find that Americans are beginning to recreate these sorts of punishments.

I didn't see anyting in that video about killing people for stealing, or cutting off hands did you? You know what, that car was probably worth about as much as the fines, court fees, lawyer bill, and stuff an American would have to pay for stealing the same amount, in say Ohio.

[Ov3rmind]

I don't care if they were stealing wood to cook soup for GIs or set a broken leg. Its still theft. But its nice to see the bleeding hearts are still as niave and stupid as ever.

So you don't believe the punishment should fit the crime? If any civilian does something wrong, we should just ruin their life (in whatever fun or comical way we see fit)?

It's not feasible to compare what we did to what Saddam might have done in the same situation. If the soldiers had cut off his fingers, you'd still have idiots in here saying, "well, Saddam would have cut off his whole hand!"

[Rooster]

"Also, do you believe that an American, caught in say...Ohio, stealing wood should have his car destroyed? "

If I caught someone stealing my wood, you better beleive it.

Whats the better option? Cut off the guy's hand? Send him to Abu-Garib? Fine him money he doesn't have? A good beating? Theaft must be punished, or next time someone will steal something bigger, and then something bigger, and then something bigger. And still this planet will be plagued by the likes of you saying "oh poor little man, he should be allowed to steal, I feel bad for him." Theft is theft. It must be punished, and in a place like Iraq, punished as publically as possible as an example to others.

[Ov3rmind]

"Also, do you believe that an American, caught in say...Ohio, stealing wood should have his car destroyed? "

If I caught someone stealing my wood, you better beleive it.

If that was true in Iraq, then everyone would take the law into their own hands.

Whats the better option? Cut off the guy's hand? Send him to Abu-Garib? Fine him money he doesn't have? A good beating?

Send him to jail?

Theaft must be punished, or next time someone will steal something bigger, and then something bigger, and then something bigger.

At this point, it's whatever they need to survive. The ironic part would be if the guy was forced to steal a car shortly after this.

And still this planet will be plagued by the likes of you saying "oh poor little man, he should be allowed to steal, I feel bad for him."

No one should be allowed to steal. But the situation needs to be dealt with accordingly, not just for the comic relief of some soldiers.

Theft is theft. It must be punished, and in a place like Iraq, punished as publically as possible as an example to others.

You act almost as if running over his car with a tank was the only logical thing to do.

[FactsOfLife]

It shouldn't matter what "a LOT of arab countries" would do. Saying that it's a better punishment than they would receive elsewhere is hardly justification.

Edit- Also... Saying that the punishment was not extreme is just being ridiculous. It's great that you are such blind supporters of the war effort...

Cry some more for me. Please.