Pissed off almost an entire class today

[PyRo]

And Pyro, what argument in favor of bans would you accept?

You want me to argue in favor of gun bans for you? You come up with a good argument and make it.
I don't know the law on automatics in it's entirety so I cannot say I agree or disagree with it. I have no problem with allowing collectors automatic weapons specifically older ones so long as special licensing is required.
The point isn't that we shouldn't bother banning certain guns because it would be difficult to enforce. My point is that the guns criminals are using are already illigle, so no bans are going to get them out of the criminals hands. What good is making them illigle on yet another level? Find a way to better enforce existing laws, if we pass a new bill making stealing illigle are robberies going to go down?
I wouldn't care if my neighbor had a licensed automatic weapon because I would know he isn't out to hurt anyone with it. Now if he had unlicensed automatic weapons I might start to worry.

[HoppysMag]

we have 4 types of licensing

Long gun
Pistol
Machine gun ( covers silencers too)
and destructive devices ( covers stuff like gernades and more)

each is progressivly harder to get

why should there be further restrictions with in those groupings? why is this illegal, and this isnt? they both shoot semi auto.

legal


"illegal"


i donno about you but i could do as much damage with the 1st as the second.
just because some body who doesnt know anything about guns has thier pantys in a bunch the rest of us law abiding citizens suffer.

[nastymag]

i believe people should have the right to own guns. but that charges for getting cought with an unlicensed gun, stealing a gun, And using a gun to threaten/hurt a person without it being selfdefense should all be very serious.

i dont know what kind of charges they carry right now, but it seems like alot of people how get cought with unregistered guns normally dont get sever punishment. correct me if i am wrong.

[mcveighr]

Second one looks like it can hold alot more cartridges, I doubt youre going to need 20 shots to take down most animals.

[PyRo]

i believe people should have the right to own guns. but that charges for getting cought with an unlicensed gun, stealing a gun, And using a gun to threaten/hurt a person without it being selfdefense should all be very serious.

i dont know what kind of charges they carry right now, but it seems like alot of people how get cought with unregistered guns normally dont get sever punishment. correct me if i am wrong.

Do they offer amnestry for any unlicensed guns? Say I found a pistol in my grandfathers addic that was never registered could it ever be registered or is it forever illigle?

[HoppysMag]

Second one looks like it can hold alot more cartridges, I doubt youre going to need 20 shots to take down most animals.

ignoring the magazine, wich is interchangable and u can get hicaps pre ban. the biggest differance is the falsh suppressor and in the first one its a lock position stock, in the second its adjustable.

yet again, preban hi cap magazines can be purchased post band and arnt illegal. so ignore the magazine

[HoppysMag]

Do they offer amnestry for any unlicensed guns? Say I found a pistol in my grandfathers addic that was never registered could it ever be registered or is it forever illigle?

it depends, since registering of firearms wasnt required in the old days, you could argue that it was bought then and forgot about . and they may run a ballistics check to see if it was used in any crimes and you may be able to register it, but dont quote me on this, if its a real scenerio, contact a lawyer and see what he says

[ScatterPlot]

I think the problem with that is that they don't have as good a system for ID'ing guns as they do fingerprints. I thinkk guns still have to be done manually (except on CSI )

[Bob_da_Splatman]

I grew up shooting started when i was 8 with 22mms.

You would think that if you have been shooting since you where 8 then you might know the difference between a 22mm and a 22.cal just a slight diference of about of 18mm but hey I mean what the diff right .....

[B.A.M.]

Its in you 2nd admendment right to own a gun. But that still doesnt mean you need a automatic to take down a bunny.

[HoppysMag]

Its in you 2nd admendment right to own a gun. But that still doesnt mean you need a automatic to take down a bunny.

agreed and thats why machine gun licenses are hard to get. but tell my why the same, semi auto gun, is illegal if it has an adjustable stock? and legal if it doesnt. they both will do the same damage, firing the same bullet. he stock length doesnt make the gun that much smaller. and show me one incident in wich a bayonet attached to a rifle, was used in a violent crime.

[mcveighr]

Why exactly would one need a bayonet on their gun?

[ScatterPlot]

Why do you NEED your paintball gun annoed a bright red to fire orange fade with matching barrel and tank cover? Same reason- cool factor.

[HoppysMag]

Why exactly would one need a bayonet on their gun?

[Thunder Bunny]

Slippery slope my back-end. I guess not allowing evyerone to have fully automatic weapons and ballistic missiles means we're already going down that slope then.

Sure governments aren't all roses. Nobody claime dthey were. But government is there to help protect people's rights. The right of you to have your toys needs to be balanced with other people's rights to safety.

Licensing, training, policing, and control. It's good for cars, it's good for guns.

Automatic weapons have always been banned. Assault weapons are not necessarily automatic.

http://web4.integraonline.com/~bbroadside/Semantics_of_Firearms.html

The rifles regulated under the assault weapons provisions of the Crime Bill are all exclusively semi-automatic, and there is no mention of the power of their ammunition. Thus the 1994 law ignores the accepted assault rifle definition entirely. This is not necessarily a bad thing. If a certain category of weapons does society more harm than good, then that category should be regulated and semantics be damned. (As I assert on a different page, I do not think this is the case with semi-automatic rifles.)