Star Wars Episode 1-3, A LOST HOPE

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  • GhillieGuy
    I got worms
    • Jan 2003
    • 1647

    #106
    Get over it people! If you don't like the movies, don't watch them! Then you won't have anything to gripe about and those of us that do like the movies won't have to listen to you bash them!
    Very well said phazeshifter!
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    • NoForts4Me
      Old. Geek. Paintballer.
      • Jun 2003
      • 282

      #107
      Originally posted by GhillieGuy
      I would have to say their were a few things that went "wrong" in the movie like when vader stepped off of the chamber he looked like frankinstien. And sometimes palpatine overexaderated. Overall it was a good flick.
      I believe the Frankenstein similarities were not a mistake. The scene is layed out very similar to the original Frankenstein movie, and we are supposed to see that Vader has become a "monster" very much like the Frankenstein monster...something to be feared, but also pitied. George Lucas is always very purposeful in his movies, more so than some imagine. He doesn't always pull it off, but there is almost always a method behind his madness.
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      • SCpoloRicker
        HA HA I'm custom!!1
        • Jan 2004
        • 4375

        #108
        Lucas started writing Episode I in 1994.

        He had a 6 page treatment of the prequels when he wrote IV-VI.

        I'll take bets, fanboys.
        God....I guess I was probably returning videotapes.

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        • WingMan13
          Registered User
          • Oct 2003
          • 828

          #109
          Originally posted by NoForts4Me
          I believe the Frankenstein similarities were not a mistake. The scene is layed out very similar to the original Frankenstein movie, and we are supposed to see that Vader has become a "monster" very much like the Frankenstein monster...something to be feared, but also pitied. George Lucas is always very purposeful in his movies, more so than some imagine. He doesn't always pull it off, but there is almost always a method behind his madness.
          Yes, very well said.

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          • Dryden
            Team Nemesis

            • Jun 2003
            • 931

            #110
            Originally posted by Blennidae
            I think that is the point. Since there is no further relationship between the two shown in the later movies, it was gratuitous to show them together like they did in ep.3. It didn't really add anything to the story. It was just a "hey look, Chewbacca's in the movie!" kind of thing.
            On the bright side, at least the running time of the film dictated editing out the scene that would have made the wookie sequence even more absurd ... the child Han Solo, who was raised by wookies and which has been reported was originally filmed for Ep 3; probably will wind up on the DVD.

            I want my money back just for the Darth Vader-is-born, "Noooooo," sequence. What began as the single scene in the entire prequel series that could redeem the franchise, the respirator clicking on and hearing the first breath of Vader, was completely underminded by that single line.

            The dialogue between Padme and Anakin was dumb. Just dumb.

            Screw Lucas. I wish Irvin Kershner & Lawrence Kasdan had made these films.

            Empire Strikes Back:

            "I love you."
            "I know."

            Now THAT'S dialogue.
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            • Steelrat
              I meant to...uh, nevermind
              • May 2003
              • 5375

              #111
              Originally posted by GhillieGuy
              I would have to say that episode 3 rocked. And i'm getting a little tired of people bashing on the movie and saying how unrealistic it is. I mean thats cool if you think that but come on, leave it to yourself. Another thing is that Lucas planned it all out 30 years ago.. He planed out that they all knew echother and thats how they all first met. R2 and 3p0 met in the first serious and have been with eachother the whole series. I would have to say their were a few things that went "wrong" in the movie like when vader stepped off of the chamber he looked like frankinstien. And sometimes palpatine overexaderated. Overall it was a good flick.
              I'll bash on it all I like, thank you. I paid my hard-earned money to go see it, so I've earned that right.

              I don't think Lucas had anything other than a very brief, very rough draft of the prequels planned out when he made the first movie, if he had anything at all.


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              • SlartyBartFast
                The Flying Scotsman
                • Jun 2002
                • 2940

                #112
                Originally posted by Steelrat
                I don't think Lucas had anything other than a very brief, very rough draft of the prequels planned out when he made the first movie, if he had anything at all.
                The finished script for all six movies IS brief.


                The entire series can be summed up on one page single spaced.

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                • Vendetta
                  Nothing witty to say.
                  • Sep 2002
                  • 702

                  #113
                  He should have made the entire movie in CGI. May be he would have spent a little attention to the human characters.

                  They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
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                  • SlartyBartFast
                    The Flying Scotsman
                    • Jun 2002
                    • 2940

                    #114
                    Originally posted by Vendetta
                    He should have made the entire movie in CGI. May be he would have spent a little attention to the human characters.


                    You think?

                    Imagine the movies with Jar-Jar as the hero.

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                    • SCpoloRicker
                      HA HA I'm custom!!1
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 4375

                      #115
                      Originally posted by SCpoloRicker
                      Lucas started writing Episode I in 1994.

                      He had a 6 page treatment of the prequels when he wrote IV-VI.

                      I'll take bets, fanboys.
                      Bears repeating.

                      /young Han on Kaashykk? NNNNOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
                      God....I guess I was probably returning videotapes.

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                      • Vendetta
                        Nothing witty to say.
                        • Sep 2002
                        • 702

                        #116
                        As bad and annoying as Jar-Jar was, at least he had a personality. Unlike every live action actor Lucas worked with.

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                        • bam wannabe
                          one lazy mofo
                          • Feb 2005
                          • 417

                          #117
                          Originally posted by Dryden

                          Screw Lucas. I wish Irvin Kershner & Lawrence Kasdan had made these films.

                          Empire Strikes Back:

                          "I love you."
                          "I know."

                          Now THAT'S dialogue.

                          but Harrison Ford made that line. the origional line was for him to simply say "i love you too." but Ford said thats not the way Solo would have said it, so he changed it without notifying anyone of the time. So the credit for that line goes to a good actor, not a good writer.
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                          • Vex
                            Superiorly Inferior
                            • Jun 2001
                            • 1871

                            #118
                            Originally posted by bam wannabe
                            but Harrison Ford made that line. the origional line was for him to simply say "i love you too." but Ford said thats not the way Solo would have said it, so he changed it without notifying anyone of the time. So the credit for that line goes to a good actor, not a good writer.
                            Correct! Ford totally made that scene ten times better than what it was supposed to be!
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                            • Vex
                              Superiorly Inferior
                              • Jun 2001
                              • 1871

                              #119
                              Originally posted by SCpoloRicker
                              Lucas started writing Episode I in 1994.

                              He had a 6 page treatment of the prequels when he wrote IV-VI.

                              I'll take bets, fanboys.
                              Well, no one said that Lucas didn't write the script for Ep. 1 in 1994. Of course he wrote the prequels later--he knew he was going to make them into films and had to actually write a detailed story, versus an outline.

                              Overall, he had the entire story outlined over 30 years ago. When he decided to make a movie (Ep. IV) he decided that it would be better to start the movies in the middle and focus on the galaxy's eventual triumph over the Empire.
                              Why he thought that, I don't know--but apparently, it worked!
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                              • Jakedubbleya
                                Don Quixote
                                • Mar 2005
                                • 631

                                #120
                                Originally posted by bam wannabe
                                but Harrison Ford made that line. the origional line was for him to simply say "i love you too." but Ford said thats not the way Solo would have said it, so he changed it without notifying anyone of the time. So the credit for that line goes to a good actor, not a good writer.
                                yousa nerd jarjar!

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