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  • Glickman
    *Insert Witty Phrase*
    • Sep 2003
    • 2673

    #1

    Really uncomfortable work situation....

    before i start, ill just warn you that although i do mention illegal.. er. objects. i will in no way condone the having of such. er. objects.

    anyway.


    i dont look for this stuff. when i reformat harddrives, i have to manually go in the slave drive and pick out all the stuff the customer wants.

    today i get this FAMILY COMPUTER. the miniPE i use boots finds 14,000 pictures. hmm. quite a collection, but of what? lets see the first few labels...
    "teenagenudeboy.jpg" "nude10yearold.jpg"

    no, i didnt click it, but after seeing that a few thousand of them are of similar names, it not really that hard to guess what it is.

    i dont care what you do on your own time, BUT. my customer said to put ALL of his stuff onto the new partition, where he said he has lots of pictures for work (he sells clothes ironically).

    so... ive gotta put all of this stuff onto a computer, accessable by the entire family (mind you the husband, wife, 17 year old son, and daughters)


    would you put all of the pictures and files like he said in his new parition all jumbled together (as in the objectional content AND the pictures used for work like he said) ?

    im not looking to embarress anyone, quite the opposite, whoever in the family downloaded this obviously took extensive care so it was not found (for the non power user ) so i would assume that he/she doesnt want it found. also, although youll probably say that its not my fault, i would feel somehow responsible if a little kid logged on to find this crap.


    not exactly the "fixing" this 17 year old wants to be doing. and i would appreciate any input you guys have on this situation.
  • Steelrat
    I meant to...uh, nevermind
    • May 2003
    • 5375

    #2
    Call the police. Seriously. There is a very good reason that child porn is illegal.


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    • geekwarrior
      MIA
      • Oct 2005
      • 2581

      #3
      Originally posted by Glickman
      before i start, ill just warn you that although i do mention illegal.. er. objects. i will in no way condone the having of such. er. objects.

      anyway.


      i dont look for this stuff. when i reformat harddrives, i have to manually go in the slave drive and pick out all the stuff the customer wants.

      today i get this FAMILY COMPUTER. the miniPE i use boots finds 14,000 pictures. hmm. quite a collection, but of what? lets see the first few labels...
      "teenagenudeboy.jpg" "nude10yearold.jpg"

      no, i didnt click it, but after seeing that a few thousand of them are of similar names, it not really that hard to guess what it is.

      i dont care what you do on your own time, BUT. my customer said to put ALL of his stuff onto the new partition, where he said he has lots of pictures for work (he sells clothes ironically).

      so... ive gotta put all of this stuff onto a computer, accessable by the entire family (mind you the husband, wife, 17 year old son, and daughters)


      would you put all of the pictures and files like he said in his new parition all jumbled together (as in the objectional content AND the pictures used for work like he said) ?

      im not looking to embarress anyone, quite the opposite, whoever in the family downloaded this obviously took extensive care so it was not found (for the non power user ) so i would assume that he/she doesnt want it found. also, although youll probably say that its not my fault, i would feel somehow responsible if a little kid logged on to find this crap.


      not exactly the "fixing" this 17 year old wants to be doing. and i would appreciate any input you guys have on this situation.

      I would open a few of those pics to make sure he is not a pedophile. If so, you need to report him to the police immediatly.

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      • edweird
        IP lawsuits > innovation
        • Dec 2001
        • 1859

        #4
        First of all... id seriously consider if this is worth losing your job over. the potential is there, and my vote is HELL YEAH IT IS.

        can you figure out which user has accessed these files?

        when you do that.. call the police and let them review the files and have them on hand when the guy expects to pick his PC up.

        pedophila is a capital crime in my book, and if I knew I could get away with it id consider it open season.

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        • Lohman446
          Useful posts: 7
          • Jun 2003
          • 9315

          #5
          Its kiddi porn, you may be under a legal obligation to report it. Certainly moving it or having anything to do with the files could cause you legal issues. I would report it to your boss, or if its not a case of your boss directly to the FBI (look up the field offices). Not reporting it, and moving those files, likely constitutes distribution or facilitation on your part.
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          • Glickman
            *Insert Witty Phrase*
            • Sep 2003
            • 2673

            #6
            Originally posted by edweird
            First of all... id seriously consider if this is worth losing your job over. the potential is there, and my vote is HELL YEAH IT IS.
            .
            bah, only got the job 2 months ago


            i didnt check who accessed the files,but now thinking that the 17 year old son didnt "conviently" forget his password doesnt seem so "convient"
            (the way i search through files bypasses any passwords)

            meh...
            Last edited by Glickman; 05-31-2006, 07:45 PM.

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            • edweird
              IP lawsuits > innovation
              • Dec 2001
              • 1859

              #7
              frankly I think techsupport ppl should get a bonus when they find and report kiddie porn on customer compys

              yeah pedophila should now be the leading cause of spontanious combustion

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              • Jeffy-CanCon
                veteran rec player
                • May 2003
                • 1309

                #8
                Tell your boss, and tell him that if he doesn't call the cops, you will.

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                • maxama10
                  Take off every zig!
                  • Sep 2004
                  • 1497

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Lohman446
                  Its kiddi porn, you may be under a legal obligation to report it. Certainly moving it or having anything to do with the files could cause you legal issues. I would report it to your boss, or if its not a case of your boss directly to the FBI (look up the field offices). Not reporting it, and moving those files, likely constitutes distribution or facilitation on your part.
                  especially after reporting it on an online forum.

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                  • Glickman
                    *Insert Witty Phrase*
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 2673

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Lohman446
                    Its kiddi porn, you may be under a legal obligation to report it. Certainly moving it or having anything to do with the files could cause you legal issues. I would report it to your boss, or if its not a case of your boss directly to the FBI (look up the field offices). Not reporting it, and moving those files, likely constitutes distribution or facilitation on your part.
                    nah, aside frompossibly being an accessory after the fact (which i wouldnt be) there is no legal obligation.

                    i plan on reporting it to my boss, and possibly having a tech thats been there longer deal with it, really dont need this messing up with my college attendance

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                    • Steelrat
                      I meant to...uh, nevermind
                      • May 2003
                      • 5375

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Glickman
                      nah, aside frompossibly being an accessory after the fact (which i wouldnt be) there is no legal obligation.

                      i plan on reporting it to my boss, and possibly having a tech thats been there longer deal with it, really dont need this messing up with my college attendance


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                      • Hexis
                        Green Mag Freak
                        • Sep 2001
                        • 2427

                        #12
                        Don't touch the files. Walk away from the computer and call the cops. No joke. I'm an InfoSec professional. Child Porn is not something to joke about or deal with in any way. You don't want to investigate further. You don't want to do anything more on that machine. Simply walk away and call the cops.

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                        • Steelrat
                          I meant to...uh, nevermind
                          • May 2003
                          • 5375

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Hexis
                          Don't touch the files. Walk away from the computer and call the cops. No joke. I'm an InfoSec professional. Child Porn is not something to joke about or deal with in any way. You don't want to investigate further. You don't want to do anything more on that machine. Simply walk away and call the cops.

                          100% correct. Don't even power down the machine, just leave it as it is and get them over there ASAP.


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                          • Surestick
                            Registered User
                            • Oct 2005
                            • 58

                            #14
                            If you are going to get fired for reporting child porn you don't want that job.
                            Most likely you will not get fired. What company wants "ignores child porn" associated w/their name?
                            I think you should tell your boss what you found & ask him to call the police. That way, whatever happens, you are not responsible either at work or legally.
                            If your boss does not contact the police you should do it yourself (for both moral & legal reasons). The best thing might be to go to the police station & explain to a police officer what you found, that you are worried about losing your job, etc. The police can tell you what your rights are as far as your job goes & what the correct course of action is.

                            Even if it's not child porn it was most likely downloaded under the belief it was & given that there are children in this family something should be done to make sure they are safe.

                            You are not at fault here - you are a citizen who has knowledge of a crime (a serious one) and that knowledge was not obtained illegally. You aren't going to be in any trouble for reporting it.
                            The worst that can happen is you are wrong & whoever those files belong to goes home a bit embarassed at the end of the day.

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                            • Steelrat
                              I meant to...uh, nevermind
                              • May 2003
                              • 5375

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Surestick
                              I think you should tell your boss what you found & ask him to call the police. That way, whatever happens, you are not responsible either at work or legally.
                              Whatever you do, don't lie to the police about who found it. Tell them exactly what happened. If it comes up in court that you made a false statement about how or who discovered it, it would be...messy.


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