UCLA student tasered by campus police for not showing ID

[$tevo]

i say they didnt taser him enough <_<

it seems that he was walking out until an officer grabbed his arm where he stopped in his tracks and wouldnt move.

seems like something exactly a 5 year old would do...

people with disrespect for the people that one day may save their lives or the lives of their loved ones should have a good one upside the head.


its like the problems i see people giving the TSA nearly every other weekend when i fly. people give the screeners a hard time for no purpose other than just to give them a hard time. they are they're to protect your sorry *** so let them do their job, and be thankful we have a program like TSA in place.

i second that..

[Steelrat]

Tasers are NON-LETHAL tools, and there appropriate use is to counter active or passive resistance. That includes actively resisting the officers, or just passively resisting them (like he was doing, just hanging there are making it difficult to move him).

The officers had every right to put their hands on his arm to escort him out. It's probably the lowest level of physical control, and causes no harm. The idiot himself decided to make a scene of it by shouting and carrying on, and brough the eventual tasering on himself. As for the "medical condition" line, you wouldn't believe how often cops hear that sort of crap. It's like people complaining that their handcuffs are too tight. Gee, sorry, but they aren't built for comfort. If you have a medical condition, maybe you should just let the officers escort you out without engaging in any sort of moronic grandstanding.

It's ironic that the centers of higher learning produce some of the greatest stupidity.

"Here's your Frigging Patriot Act!!!!" What an idiot.

[grEnAlEins]

"Here's your Frigging Patriot Act!!!!" What an idiot.

:spit_take I missed that the first time...

[Recon by Fire]

I would have tazed him, the guy with the camera phone, and you for being upset about it. Maybe the guy next to you for heck of it too.

[Steelrat]

:spit_take I missed that the first time...

The stupid part is, the incident had NOTHING to do with the Patriot Act. The moron might has well have shouted about the drug benefit plan legislation, as it would have made just as much sense.

I hope the department backs the officers up.

[grEnAlEins]

I hope the department backs the officers up.

Me too, but in LA IDK how well it'll go. My bet is that they'll settle it out of court, so the officers will get documentation in their files and maybe a public censure...
And I know darn well that the Pat Act was not relevent in the situation, I laughed so loud the guys down the hall came over to see what was so funny... I can't believe I missed that the first time through.

[Altimas]

They shoulda tased him Once and Drug him out. I counted 4 times he got Tased and thats a little much imo. Sorry I think its a little abusive just for student ID, its required at my University too but I forgot my ID all the time.

[tropical_fishy]

I'm talking to my friend at UCLA now; there's a rally tomorrow about "justice."

Interesting. I shall find out tomorrow how that went.

[kosmo]

I love being one of the few lucky enough to be impervious to tazing. Damn, I cant wait to be a drunk and unruly college student.

[Flamebo]

You don't need to use a Taser to drag someone out of the building against their will. Two of the cops could have just grabbed under the arms and pulled him out. Any responsible officers would have done just that, and recognized that this is gross misuse of authority. I'd fight this until I had their badges and my tuition covered, especially at UCLA. That's screwed up.

[grEnAlEins]

They shoulda tased him Once and Drug him out. I counted 4 times he got Tased and thats a little much imo. Sorry I think its a little abusive just for student ID, its required at my University too but I forgot my ID all the time.

He was still a non-compliant suspect though. As I said above, the officers looked to be in a crowded library in close quarters with said suspect and others. If he was asked to present ID to a school official (I bet the coppers don't hang at the library, that's what 7/11 and Dunkin Donuts is for ), he was most likely causing an issue. The police had to be called because the individual was a problem that needed to be removed (again, I assume that the police were not on scene for the entire time that the event transpired, although neither was I ). He was asked politely to vacate. He refused. Officer deploys what is known as a "come along" hold. Suspect becomes belligerent. Officers deliver further verbal instruction. Suspect is non-compliant still. Taser (or other electronic control device, I could not clearly see it) was deployed as the only feasible means of gaining control quickly and safely. It was re-deployed after suspect demonstrated complete lack of will to comply even after said device was deployed. Job well done, they gained custody of unruly suspect without causing injury to suspect or bystanders. Yes, they hurt the suspect, but hurt is not equal to injured. Any pain that the gentleman may have felt were well deserved. This situation was a total success, nobody was injured and order was restored/maintained.

Note: I am not certified or certifiable in the state of CA, but I am working towards a certification, and have been educated--thoroughly I might add--on the subject of use of force/less-lethal munitions. The above statement is based on what I was taught.

[grEnAlEins]

I love being one of the few lucky enough to be impervious to tazing. Damn, I cant wait to be a drunk and unruly college student.

:rofl: Are you really? I wish I was you... I get to get tased soon , part of the certification in these parts

You don't need to use a Taser to drag someone out of the building against their will. Two of the cops could have just grabbed under the arms and pulled him out. Any responsible officers would have done just that, and recognized that this is gross misuse of authority. I'd fight this until I had their badges and my tuition covered, especially at UCLA. That's screwed up.

Not so... They were in tight quarters. It is quite dificult to gain control of a non-compliant individual, let alone without space to utilize. What makes it worse is the limited space the officers had was also filled with innocent (non-officer/non-suspect) parties. The officers had to resolve the situation quickly, and they did. Good job officers
Authority was misused?!?!?! Where? Force was not misused either.

[Steelrat]

You don't need to use a Taser to drag someone out of the building against their will. Two of the cops could have just grabbed under the arms and pulled him out. Any responsible officers would have done just that, and recognized that this is gross misuse of authority. I'd fight this until I had their badges and my tuition covered, especially at UCLA. That's screwed up.

Why does everyone think the police have to play fair? Why should they have to wrestle with him, and thereby get their firearms within his reach, when they can just tase him a few times? And police seldon grab someone under the arms and pull them, just for that reason. If he didn't get the tase, he'd probably have gotten some nasty pressure-point control, or thrown to the ground and cuffed.

[Steelrat]

They shoulda tased him Once and Drug him out. I counted 4 times he got Tased and thats a little much imo. Sorry I think its a little abusive just for student ID, its required at my University too but I forgot my ID all the time.

Hey, keep being non-compliant, and keep getting tased. And they didn't tase him for not having ID. They tased him for non-compliance. If you are told to leave campus because you were caught without ID, I'd suggest you comply peacefully, and if the offers want to grab your arm and escort you out, let them.

Idiot deserved what he got.

[billybob_81067]

Good lord what a ! Completely deserved everything that he got and probably should have been punched in the face a few times as well just to even out the score.