UCLA student tasered by campus police for not showing ID

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  • PyRo
    President Bioloaf inc.
    • Dec 2000
    • 10186

    #31
    Originally posted by grEnAlEins
    Me too, but in LA IDK how well it'll go. My bet is that they'll settle it out of court, so the officers will get documentation in their files and maybe a public censure...
    And I know darn well that the Pat Act was not relevent in the situation, I laughed so loud the guys down the hall came over to see what was so funny... I can't believe I missed that the first time through.
    They didn't taze him for not having a student ID. They tazed him for refuseing to cooperate and to gain control of the situation in a manor least likely to cause injury.

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    • Gitaroo Man
      Desafortunadamente
      • May 2002
      • 1536

      #32
      Maybe he deserved it the first time but after that it was just crazy. For one, I'm not sure but maybe he couldn't move very well or get up because he had been tazered. And Secondly, how the hell can two cops not DRAG him out of there...it's not that hard...you tazered him once...then drag. No need to do it multiple times.

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      • Rudz
        Registered User

        • Apr 2005
        • 5087

        #33
        lol

        idk but i heard that taser go of atleast 3 times..the idiot should have just left, heck its LAPD, luckily they didnt just shoot and ask questions later...
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        • Lenny
          I AM the AO famous!
          • Dec 2003
          • 1628

          #34
          I actuall found that funny :spit_take

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          • bornl33t
            hello lamewads
            • Oct 2000
            • 4463

            #35
            Originally posted by Steelrat
            Tasers are NON-LETHAL tools, and there appropriate use is to counter active or passive resistance. That includes actively resisting the officers, or just passively resisting them (like he was doing, just hanging there are making it difficult to move him).

            The officers had every right to put their hands on his arm to escort him out. It's probably the lowest level of physical control, and causes no harm. The idiot himself decided to make a scene of it by shouting and carrying on, and brough the eventual tasering on himself. As for the "medical condition" line, you wouldn't believe how often cops hear that sort of crap. It's like people complaining that their handcuffs are too tight. Gee, sorry, but they aren't built for comfort. If you have a medical condition, maybe you should just let the officers escort you out without engaging in any sort of moronic grandstanding.

            It's ironic that the centers of higher learning produce some of the greatest stupidity.

            "Here's your Frigging Patriot Act!!!!" What an idiot.
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            Especially in CA... what up with that state?

            The officers where telling him to stand up before he was teasered the first time. He was clearly acting in defiance and was NOT "About to leave". 600 cool point will be deducted from the moron and given to the Officers
            Last edited by bornl33t; 11-17-2006, 05:40 AM.

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            • Lohman446
              Useful posts: 7
              • Jun 2003
              • 9315

              #36
              Originally posted by tropical_fishy
              I'm talking to my friend at UCLA now; there's a rally tomorrow about "justice."

              Interesting. I shall find out tomorrow how that went.

              Ok class, we did fairly well in yesterdays lesson on "tasering"

              Todays lesson, crowd dispercement (sp).

              Ready the tear gas
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              • grEnAlEins
                dazed and confused
                • Jul 2002
                • 2864

                #37
                Originally posted by Gitaroo Man
                Maybe he deserved it the first time but after that it was just crazy. For one, I'm not sure but maybe he couldn't move very well or get up because he had been tazered. And Secondly, how the hell can two cops not DRAG him out of there...it's not that hard...you tazered him once...then drag. No need to do it multiple times.
                Have you ever tried to drag a non-compliant individual away while it tight quarters with them. Fitting an officer in the aisle along with the suspect is difficult enough, and want them to fit in such a tight space... seems logical
                They did try to use a come along hold, and suspect became belligerent. Officers then had to increase their use of force. Read the posts above yours, this was explained several times. Also the Taser does not permanently cripple the subject it is used on. I have not yet been Tased (I will soon as it is part of the certification process here), but I know people who have, and I have seen it happen. Bodily control is regained fairly quickly, like within seconds after the Tase cycle is stoped. This was also stated above.
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                • grEnAlEins
                  dazed and confused
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 2864

                  #38
                  Originally posted by PyRo
                  They didn't taze him for not having a student ID. They tazed him for refuseing to cooperate and to gain control of the situation in a manor least likely to cause injury.
                  What I was getting at in that post was that the department will settle to avoid a messy trial, an expensive trial, and the (further) soiling of public image. It has nothing to do with right or wrong, it is all money and politics. I do understand that the officers were more than justified to Tase, and I do fully comprehend why the Taser was deployed. Unfortunately the police in LA have a piss poor public image as it is (in most cases), and a trial would not benifit the department, nor would it benifit the officers (probably not anyways).
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                  • DiRTyBuNNy
                    Registered User
                    • Sep 2001
                    • 4854

                    #39
                    to me the funniest part was the idiocy of the student body in the background asking for badge numbers and the information of the officers while they're trying to do their job. How about next time they're trying to take a BioChem test an officer just sits right next to them and starts asking them about their home life while they're trying to concentrate.

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                    • billybob_81067
                      A.O.'s official Redneck
                      • Jan 2001
                      • 1682

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Lohman446
                      Ok class, we did fairly well in yesterdays lesson on "tasering"

                      Todays lesson, crowd dispercement (sp).

                      Ready the tear gas
                      I lol-ed!
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                      • ZEROte

                        #41
                        college students seem to think that because they are in an institution to better themself that it gives them the liberty to express themselves and show what they know. this whole dont touch me thing is First and only warning. We do not cuss on AO. Continue to do so will result in a temporary or permanant ban. Army if an officer of the law puts their hands on you its for a reason. and no matter what the police are always to blame. the kid could have been a fed up student who was planning a school shooting and these idiots are over here asking for badge numbers. the kid was begging for attention screaming stupidities like heres your patriot act. he is lucky they were peace officers and not real lapd. lapd would not have put up with that yelling.
                        Last edited by Army; 11-17-2006, 01:06 PM.

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                        • ZEROte

                          #42
                          this whole thing really just angered me. i hope the justice system comes through and doesnt award this kid a dime. as a matter of fact ucla should go right ahead and tell him he is no longer welcome. to me this kid just gave ucla a bad name.

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                          • Remington
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                            • Aug 2002
                            • 1671

                            #43
                            A job well done in my opinion! It's a shame police officers don't get the kind of respect they deserve for doing the kind of job they do.

                            That kid doesn't even deserve a higher education; clearly it's just making him less intelligent.

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                            • grEnAlEins
                              dazed and confused
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 2864

                              #44
                              Originally posted by ZEROte
                              this whole thing really just angered me. i hope the justice system comes through and doesnt award this kid a dime. as a matter of fact ucla should go right ahead and tell him he is no longer welcome. to me this kid just gave ucla a bad name.
                              Unfortunately that is not the way this will play out politicaly The officers are probably screwed here, even though they've done nothing wrong. I just hope the department backs them, but as I said before, I bet they settle the case...
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                              • DiRTyBuNNy
                                Registered User
                                • Sep 2001
                                • 4854

                                #45
                                somebody needs to create a meme for ytmnd.com with the "Here's your Patriot Act" whine...

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