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  • Piranti
    Cold Blooded Lizard
    • Jun 2006
    • 486

    #76
    Whats even funnier, is that those liberals or think they are, and blame the republicans for wanting the draft back are sorely deluded. In fact the congressmen/senators who have proposed bills to reintroduce the draft have been.. can you guess.... yup DEMOCRATS.


    Personally I am a republican, as you can probably tell from my previous post. However I will take a 'liberal' slant here for a moment. The republicans do not want the draft reinstated as it is bad publicity and they dont want thier 'rich' sons going off to war.

    Unfortunately nothing any of us say publicly can change anyone elses mind in this topic due to the high level of emotions involved. Unfortunately Politics are not rational. All rational thought escapes out the window and soon as politics enters the room.

    On the exit strategy thing, umm how long were we in europe and Japan after WWII ? It wasn't as rosy as the then ( imo rightfully censored media's) perception of what went on after and during the war. Hell we are still sitting over there and in the pacific theatre. Hell were still in Korea and that war never officially ended. Vietnam was not an officially declared war so somewhat doesn't count but we cut and run, and the end result of that wasn't pretty.

    Oh well, Does not matter the only thing that really bites me are those that enjoy the freedoms and liberties afforded them by the sacrifices made by our servicemen and women, yet will refuse to do the same if they are called upon. Instead they choose to cut and run like a spineless cowards they really are.

    And yes I would be in the military right now serving in Iraq or Afghanistan right now if they would have let me. I tried 3 times and was turned down 3 times.

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    • bleachit
      Conturbo et Ledo
      • May 2003
      • 1410

      #77
      Originally posted by MoeMag
      I am a free man. I intend to stay that way. I love this country because I can make choices of my own. My nation can ask me all she likes; my response is I want to help by developing technology for her as an aerospace engineer.

      here's a cookie.





      if you dodge a draft, don't come back.
      "Great stories! See everyone, just buy a Sydarm and become a paintball superstar!! "
      AGD

      "i just sent out the full force of the canadian army (4 guys). expect high canadian casualties"
      Blackweenie

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      • MoeMag
        Still here.
        • Dec 2005
        • 1821

        #78
        Originally posted by bleachit
        if you dodge a draft, don't come back.

        No Prob, I wouldnt want to if it happened.

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        • lather
          Registered User
          • Jul 2004
          • 591

          #79
          Originally posted by bleachit
          maybe he was concerned about the president's awesome ability to ignore all the blowing up of the American's stuff because he was too busy with an intern...


          /what? kill Osama? No, that might piss off the Saudi's

          Bush is busy with an intern??
          "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." --Benjamin Franklin

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          • bleachit
            Conturbo et Ledo
            • May 2003
            • 1410

            #80
            Originally posted by MoeMag

            No Prob, I wouldnt want to if it happened.

            ...a lil confusion I guess... whatever:)



            Originally posted by lather
            Bush is busy with an intern??
            "Great stories! See everyone, just buy a Sydarm and become a paintball superstar!! "
            AGD

            "i just sent out the full force of the canadian army (4 guys). expect high canadian casualties"
            Blackweenie

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            • MoeMag
              Still here.
              • Dec 2005
              • 1821

              #81
              Originally posted by bleachit
              ...a lil confusion I guess... whatever:)
              thats cool.

              I didnt quite understand the cookie thing
              I think thats what threw me off.

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              • Army
                Moderator of DOOOOOOOOMMM!

                • Oct 2000
                • 5785

                #82
                "Except for the killing of bad guys, freeing a people, seeking out and destroying terrorism, being in a foriegn country, keeping me safe, and looking totally cool in uniform, I support you soldiers 100%"!

                oh please

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                • Lohman446
                  Useful posts: 7
                  • Jun 2003
                  • 9315

                  #83
                  Originally posted by don miguel
                  If there were a draft, I would join the military, .
                  But only if drafted? Dude, you don't have to wait for a draft, just go to your local (oh, Mass, you might have to drive out of state) recruiting office and sign up.
                  "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

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                  • Eagle
                    The hand of vengence
                    • May 2001
                    • 950

                    #84
                    Congressmen who willfully take actions during wartime that damage moral and undermine the military are saboteurs and should be arrested, exiled, or hanged. - President Abraham Lincoln

                    I personnally feel this goes for all, not just those in Congress. Everytime you say you don't support the war, you damage the morale of those fighting it, and morale is a dangerous thing.
                    Die Screaming

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                    • NotKai
                      Registered User
                      • Oct 2006
                      • 140

                      #85
                      Originally posted by MANN
                      Why would you say that? You have no logic behind your statements. You come in here, and are tring to start a flame war. And just as you have the right to run like a chicken poop instead of honoring your country; he has the right to choose a political party based on the other parties mistakes.
                      I vote for a draft just to get people like you out of our country.
                      It's not really the other party's mistakes, it is one man's mistake, and it is a silly superficial reason to completely alter one's belief system.


                      I would never put my life on the line for the soul purpose of 'repaying my debt to this country.'

                      My life is worth a little more than that.

                      You have to understand that I don't believe in any kind of afterlife.

                      I am certainly not going to spend what little time I do have on a battlefield in Iraq, no matter what this country has given me.

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                      • don miguel
                        the legend
                        • Sep 2006
                        • 1141

                        #86
                        Originally posted by Lohman446
                        But only if drafted? Dude, you don't have to wait for a draft, just go to your local (oh, Mass, you might have to drive out of state) recruiting office and sign up.
                        massachusetts sucks, novody here supports the war. I want to join the marienes either right out of highschool, or after college, IDK, but my own mom said that if I join the marienes she said she won't pay for my college, and basically hate me for the rest of my life. I would love to join the marienes, but i don't know if it's a good idea in my situation.

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                        • WenULiVeUdiE
                          Force of Nature Staff
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 1982

                          #87
                          Originally posted by Eagle
                          Congressmen who willfully take actions during wartime that damage moral and undermine the military are saboteurs and should be arrested, exiled, or hanged. - President Abraham Lincoln

                          I personnally feel this goes for all, not just those in Congress. Everytime you say you don't support the war, you damage the morale of those fighting it, and morale is a dangerous thing.
                          And violate the rights of all Americans in the process...
                          Hey, look at that! It's Santa!

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                          • geekwarrior
                            MIA
                            • Oct 2005
                            • 2581

                            #88
                            Originally posted by don miguel
                            massachusetts sucks, novody here supports the war. I want to join the marienes either right out of highschool, or after college, IDK, but my own mom said that if I join the marienes she said she won't pay for my college, and basically hate me for the rest of my life. I would love to join the marienes, but i don't know if it's a good idea in my situation.
                            they won't take you, for the simple fact that you can't even spell marines.

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                            • Lohman446
                              Useful posts: 7
                              • Jun 2003
                              • 9315

                              #89
                              Originally posted by don miguel
                              massachusetts sucks, novody here supports the war. I want to join the marienes either right out of highschool, or after college, IDK, but my own mom said that if I join the marienes she said she won't pay for my college, and basically hate me for the rest of my life. I would love to join the marienes, but i don't know if it's a good idea in my situation.
                              The military would pay for your college :)
                              "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

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                              • FactsOfLife
                                Conservative Jihadi
                                • May 2002
                                • 2504

                                #90
                                Originally posted by NotKai
                                It's not really the other party's mistakes, it is one man's mistake, and it is a silly superficial reason to completely alter one's belief system.


                                I would never put my life on the line for the soul purpose of 'repaying my debt to this country.'

                                My life is worth a little more than that.

                                You have to understand that I don't believe in any kind of afterlife.

                                I am certainly not going to spend what little time I do have on a battlefield in Iraq, no matter what this country has given me.


                                Don't worry, when and if the time comes I'll take your place and defend my country, again.

                                Don't push it. YOU almost closed this thread. Keep it civil. Army
                                Last edited by Army; 01-13-2007, 11:21 PM.

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