Va Tech shootings

[chefstevie]

Really? You know this based on what? Lets ban them, make sure the cops don't have them too. Oddly enough there are very few violent crimes committed by citizens carrying with a CCW. I'm not as sure as you are that there would have been incidents before. Do you buy for a moment that some university policy has really kept that campus gun free?

im talkign about students, the campus police should definitly carry guns for good measure. however students carrying guns is retarded

[Ole Unka Phil]

You speak of students as if they are not humans... it's dispicable.

Now we do know... the kid did buy the guns illegaly. Therefore it was illegal for him to puchase a gun. He was adjudicated mentaly incompetent by court order. However the courts are not entering these declarations into the NICS database. Why? I don't know. Thats got to change. Because a crazy person is going to lie, as Cao did, on his 4473 form and the NICS does not have the information to deny based on court ordered Mental Incompetence. There is your answer. Fix the system.

[slade]

You speak of students as if they are not humans... it's dispicable.

that kid is younger than me. i'm not even in college yet.

[Ole Unka Phil]

You know when I saw that the first thing came to my mind was this kid was playing a Video game in his mind. Anyone else get that from that? Seriously looney.

[Lohman446]

im talkign about students, the campus police should definitly carry guns for good measure. however students carrying guns is retarded

We are not talking HS students here. We are talking adults over the age of 18. If we are going to start restricting rights until you are age XX then lets discuss that.

[CKY_Alliance]

Video is out...I see some links above but I believe those are just for the pictures?..


Either way, just watched the video..and wondering if he wrote what he was going to say first or if he was reading from a script or something of that nature...anyone know..I havn't kept up with it all that much..


I know if I wrote something like that, then when back and read it to a camera...the second go around I would have probably calmed down...hmm


who knows..



For the chef..."nothing good can come from guns"...get over it.. and most deer I have had has been good and it gets to my plate from a gun..

[Ole Unka Phil]

We are not talking HS students here. We are talking adults over the age of 18. If we are going to start restricting rights until you are age XX then lets discuss that.

The legal age for a Handgun is 21. You cannot obtain a CWP until 21 as far as I know. Is here anyway.


However... we give kids 18 years old guns and send em over to fight wars. And every one of them has a gun... and they don't go off shooting each other every time they have an argument.

[Lohman446]

The legal age for a Hangun is 21. You cannot obtain a CWP until 21.


However... we give kids 18 guns and send em over to fight wars. And every one of them has a gun... and they don't go off shooting each other every time they have an argument.

I knew that. Sometimes you forget the very basic fundamentals. There are ways to legally own a handgun at 18 but your point still stands.

The point here, if there person is of legal age, being a college student should not matter.

Bet more college students have problems with alchohol than guns, and the college environment contributes, maybe we should ban all college students from drinking regardless of age, because after all college students are obviously different than the rest of us.

[chefstevie]

no matter what you say you cant deny the fact that guns are bad. sure they've changed the world with key assasinations but it was never necessary. Just think of all the tragedies that could have been avoided. And as 311 put it so clearly, "Guns are for *POOF*"

[slade]

no matter what you say you cant deny the fact that guns are bad.

yeesh, i'm not even a gun fanatic or anything, and i feel the need to jump in and say that a gun is just a tool, a person has intent that can be labeled as "good" or "bad"

[SR_matt]

no matter what you say you cant deny the fact that guns are bad. sure they've changed the world with key assasinations but it was never necessary. Just think of all the tragedies that could have been avoided. And as 311 put it so clearly, "Guns are for pus****"

i will say the people behind the guns are bad.

do i agree that studenst shoudlnt carry guns on campus, yep i agree

so i think we should ban guns, nope

do i think we need to start straighting out our country so people dont do crap like this and people dont have as many issues and as much bs that goes on in general. hell ya.


-matt

[chefstevie]

yeesh, i'm not even a gun fanatic or anything, and i feel the need to jump in and say that a gun is just a tool, a person has intent that can be labeled as "good" or "bad"

i couldnt agree more but dont you think that other uses of force in certain situations could be used?

[warbeak2099]

no matter what you say you cant deny the fact that guns are bad. sure they've changed the world with key assasinations but it was never necessary. Just think of all the tragedies that could have been avoided. And as 311 put it so clearly, "Guns are for *POOF*"

But they exist and that is reality. No amount of capricious daydreaming or rhetoric will make them dissapear. If a badguy has a gun, the best thing to protect yourself with is another gun. Until you go ahead and fix human nature with your witty one liners, that's reality. I prefer to live in it.

[chefstevie]

i will say the people behind the guns are bad.

do i agree that studenst shoudlnt carry guns on campus, yep i agree

so i think we should ban guns, nope

do i think we need to start straighting out our country so people dont do crap like this and people dont have as many issues and as much bs that goes on in general. hell ya.


-matt

i would love to hear your plan for "straightening out our country" because i am down for a laugh.

if guns never existed, the world would be a better place, dont deny that.

[warbeak2099]

i would love to hear your plan for "straightening out our country" because i am down for a laugh.

if guns never existed, the world would be a better place, dont deny that.

No one's denying it. But they do exist. Have you a time machine? If not, then please xplain why a properly trained, 21+yo with a CCP would be a threat during a situation in which a psychopath has drawn a gun on students? How could that individual not be an asset to the safety of those students?