** Official Level 10 Problems Thread **

[sdawg]

Dangerous power on/off flip switch ( is it supposed to blow out air when you turn it off?? )

yeah, that's a feature called "bleeding the lines."

Where is the leak coming from? If it's from down the powertube/barrel, have you tried different o-rings?

[Mime]

I have tryed ahem** :
Every carrier in combination with Every O ring.
I have not used shims. but I am going to try that with the smallest O ring and carrier to see if it helps.

and quite frankly I'v put just over 25% of the oil that you get in the bottle in the marker,
I cannot possible put anymore in it.

[questionful]

I posted this on SpecOps but I'll post it here too. It's your on/off. You said on SpecOps that it still leaks when you hold the trigger down? Inspect your on/off O-rings, make sure you have the right ones in the right place, and oil them well.

[athomas]

I have tryed ahem** :
Every carrier in combination with Every O ring.
I have not used shims. but I am going to try that with the smallest O ring and carrier to see if it helps.

and quite frankly I'v put just over 25% of the oil that you get in the bottle in the marker,
I cannot possible put anymore in it.

You do have bolt stick which is why it won't fire. That is due to a carrier size that is too small. The leak when a carrier is too small is usually a bad o-ring or a piece of dirt.

Don't over oil. You only need to wet the orings to make them slide better on moving parts.

Make sure your rail bushing is in place. If it is missing, the valve could sit too far back and simulate the same effect as too many shims.

[Mime]

Make sure your rail bushing is in place. If it is missing, the valve could sit too far back and simulate the same effect as too many shims.

what is a rail bushing?

and today I did the whole on/off thing and went through all the combinations again. now Im out of air for the second time and equally sad.
this time though I tryed with shims. still nothing. its still leaking and its still sticking even after one shot.

[athomas]

what is a rail bushing?

and today I did the whole on/off thing and went through all the combinations again. now Im out of air for the second time and equally sad.
this time though I tryed with shims. still nothing. its still leaking and its still sticking even after one shot.

The rail bushing fits in the hole at the back of the rail where the field strip screw goes through to hold the valve in place. If it is missing, it could cause the problems you are experiencing.

[Mime]

The rail bushing fits in the hole at the back of the rail where the field strip screw goes through to hold the valve in place. If it is missing, it could cause the problems you are experiencing.

oh, I got it.
It wasnt the rail bushing.

it just came to life suddenly. No idea what I did.
everything is working fine, im going to the field with it on sunday to make sure it works.

[athomas]

oh, I got it.
It wasnt the rail bushing.

it just came to life suddenly. No idea what I did.
everything is working fine, im going to the field with it on sunday to make sure it works.

I'm guessing that a piece of dirt was causing the issue and it dislodged and is no longer there.

[ManInBlack]

Hey all, I've installed a level 10 in my classic valve'd pnuemag and I'm unsure the next step I should take.

I've got the carrier with one line and one dot in, 3 shims, and the non-red spring. it will function fine if I turn up the velocity to the point where there is gas leaking out the back. If I turn it down enough to stop leaking it won't fire. Should I go with fewer shims or a different carrier?

I know I should be able to find the info myself but I've been staring at if for a while and my mind has gone blah...

Thanks.

[athomas]

Hey all, I've installed a level 10 in my classic valve'd pnuemag and I'm unsure the next step I should take.

I've got the carrier with one line and one dot in, 3 shims, and the non-red spring. it will function fine if I turn up the velocity to the point where there is gas leaking out the back. If I turn it down enough to stop leaking it won't fire. Should I go with fewer shims or a different carrier?

I know I should be able to find the info myself but I've been staring at if for a while and my mind has gone blah...

Thanks.

It sounds like you are using the long silver bolt spring. Use the red bolt spring to lower the velocity setting at which the gun will fire.

If it is not the bolt spring, it is quite possible that your regulator piston assembly is an older one that is set to a lower release pressure. If this is so, then you need a new assembly in order to run the level 10 bolt on your gun. If your gun is new, then the assembly is probably fine.

[ManInBlack]

Thanks I'll give that a try. For some reason I was thinking the red spring would be stronger than the silver one. What exactly is the definition of an older gun since these things last forever? My serial number is in the 21,xxx range.

[athomas]

Thanks I'll give that a try. For some reason I was thinking the red spring would be stronger than the silver one. What exactly is the definition of an older gun since these things last forever? My serial number is in the 21,xxx range.

An older mag would be any one that was produced prior to the release of the level 10. A 21,xxx serial number is definately in the old category. You have a lower pressure regulator piston assembly that probably needs to be upgraded to a new higher pressure one to handle the higher operating chamber pressure of the level 10 bolt system.

[canadian_nibbles]

Spring trouble

I have been using my lvl 10 bolt but it still chops once in awhile, im using the shortest spring because if i use any diff spring it will not shoot doesn't leak or anything but it just doesn't fire at any suggestions>?

[athomas]

I have been using my lvl 10 bolt but it still chops once in awhile, im using the shortest spring because if i use any diff spring it will not shoot doesn't leak or anything but it just doesn't fire at any suggestions>?

When you use the next longer (red) spring, don't forget to increase the velocity setting to bring the velocity back up to 300fps.

When you do use the red spring, turn up the velocity until it does fire. What is your velocity at this setting?

[canadian_nibbles]

When you use the next longer (red) spring, don't forget to increase the velocity setting to bring the velocity back up to 300fps.

When you do use the red spring, turn up the velocity until it does fire. What is your velocity at this setting?

well i put the red one and cranked the velocity not sure exact FPS no chrony here. but i can crank it and crank it and it still feels to stiff with the red spring on ?