BlackVCG's ULT Thread

[BlackVCG]

Regarding the issue of valves the ULT can be used in...

All RT valves recharge the same. The problem with using the ULT in an E-Mag is the weight of the sear assembly and the slower recharge force of the ULT slows down the gun considerably. If you have a double-o-ring E-Mag valve in a regular mechanical gun, the ULT will be fine.

So to clear things up:

The ULT should NOT be used in-

E-Mags running in E-Mode
AIR valves

It should be used in any mechanical gun with an RT valve that has a double o-ring on/off.


tdogreb-

The pin is not suppose to go all the way through the support piece. The support moves in unison with the pin. It was stuck to the pin because from the factory AGD puts a bit of loctite on the pin so you don't lose the pin support. Just be sure that when you take out the valve you don't drop the pin support piece and lose it.

xmaglover-

The RT-Pro valve was drilled for just one o-ring. The hole needs to be drilled deeper and not have a step in it so that the ULT will fit. Look at my pictures at the beginning of this thread and you'll see the difference. Just get it bored out by someone that can do it properly and the RTP valve will accept the ULT trigger.

[headcase]

Thanks Black, that clears everything up for me.

[USAF-Flyboy with a Mag]

ok the issue I'm having is when I put in the ult on/off I get a leak. It seems to be from the bolt not resetting because I can put my finger in and push the bolt back. If I put the original on/off back in the gun works fine...bolt resets and no leaks what-so-ever.

My setup:
classic w/xvalve
68 4500psi pure energy tank output is 850 i believe.
intelliframe
ule body

["the FitZ"]

I need to know something, will this actually increase my speed or just response and will it have any lag(dwell time) because i know it lowers the reactivity of it. installing in Xvalve.

["the FitZ"]

does the ult actually increase speed or is it just response and will it have any "lag" or dwell time to it because I know it lowers the reactivity. Installing in Xvalve.

[Jerhew]

it lightens the trigger pull.
as far as increasing your speed...
well do you shoot faster with a lighter trigger?

yes it also lowers the reactivity...there's no dwell or anything like that
it's feel is comparable to a lightly sprung mech cocker hinge trigger..
the lighter pull and lowered reactivity generally means that it's easier to shoot fast but also easier to short stroke
and by the way, just like any trigger, you have to "learn it", which means you'll probably short stroke it occasionally until you get used to the feel

["the FitZ"]

ok im getting one, thanks for the help.

[wish-had-a-mag]

Pardon my stupidity, but will a ULT work on a Classic grip frame.(I am eyeing that RTpro package but dont have the dough for a 100 Intelliframe.

[Jerhew]

yes because the mod is to the on/off switch which is mounted in the valve body...it doesn't change any actual part on the triggerframe itself so it doesnt matter what frame you have

[decimator4]

I hope this hasnt been asked yet, but I searched and couldnt find it. I got my RT Pro for christmas with included ULT. When I finally get my nitro filled, It is going full auto. I took out shims til it had one ULT shim in, and it still went fully auto. After a few shots, it stopped shooting and wouldnt shoot again. I have no idea whats wrong, I'm really agrivated as this seems to always happen to me, where my stuff never works, even when I dont tinker with it. If sum1 has a solution to this problem and could answer fast, I would appreciate it.

[BlackVCG]

Make sure the field strip screw is tightened with an allen wrench.

[the larch]

Yup. If it's just fingered tightened. that could happen.
perhaps make sure the on/off is pushed in snugly. Is your tank a preset hpa?

[decimator4]

ya, the tank is preset at 850 psi. I'll try and see if its the feild strip screw, but I think I tightened it with a wrench before...

[the larch]

did you by chance, mess with the trigger rod length? That could cause this problem also..maybe.

[decimator4]

I didnt mess with the length... I think tightening the screw may have worked, but I will have to shoot it a little more to be able to tell.... thanks for the help so far