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  • jamescell
    IBEW local 498
    • Aug 2004
    • 367

    #31
    Sweet! Did you ever try to mount the ram horizontally (I know my spelling could use some work)? I think that would be the ideal set up. Also what did you do for a lpr, I would like to dream up a way to integrate it in to the trigger frame. I think I will be ordering a palmers quick switch and possibly a palmer rock. I'm having problems thinking of a way to mount the rock, I don't want hoses and parts all over the marker.
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    • splat15k
      The Beast from the East

      • Oct 2001
      • 1227

      #32
      I wonder if having QEV's on the ram will have a noticable performance increase...
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      • master_alexander
        im a gun pimp :D
        • Sep 2004
        • 2462

        #33
        how can you make he tiggerpull smaller so you can walk the trigger? that i my main goal, i want to be able to walk the trigger and avoin electronics, hnd have it work and be cheap, it would still give you a cocker triggerpull, right?
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        • splat15k
          The Beast from the East

          • Oct 2001
          • 1227

          #34
          Originally posted by master_alexander
          how can you make he tiggerpull smaller so you can walk the trigger? that i my main goal, i want to be able to walk the trigger and avoin electronics, hnd have it work and be cheap, it would still give you a cocker triggerpull, right?
          I was thinking the same thing...
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          • jamescell
            IBEW local 498
            • Aug 2004
            • 367

            #35
            I belive the pull should be VERY short, of course it bepends on the 3-way you use. I just ordered all of the parts, I figure my trigger pull should be .6mm and about 4oz
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            • splat15k
              The Beast from the East

              • Oct 2001
              • 1227

              #36
              Originally posted by jamescell
              I belive the pull should be VERY short, of course it bepends on the 3-way you use. I just ordered all of the parts, I figure my trigger pull should be .6mm and about 4oz

              How did you figure this?
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              • master_alexander
                im a gun pimp :D
                • Sep 2004
                • 2462

                #37
                Originally posted by splat15k
                How did you figure this?
                i would like to know too
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                • jamescell
                  IBEW local 498
                  • Aug 2004
                  • 367

                  #38
                  I figured this because in my design the trigger acts directly on the 3-way. There for the only resistance you have is the 3-way and the trigger return. The 3-way I will be using has a .6mm activation and a 2oz force required. Through the use of very exact trigger stops I will be able to tune this thing to a very sweet shooting machine! Well it's all theory right now but by the end of this or next week I will know for a fact how this concept works.
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                  • splat15k
                    The Beast from the East

                    • Oct 2001
                    • 1227

                    #39
                    Where did you acquire the activation and pull weight information? Also, what parts did you order?
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                    • jamescell
                      IBEW local 498
                      • Aug 2004
                      • 367

                      #40
                      I got the info directly from palmers. I ordered there quick switch, it's not the smallest or least expensive but is is the shortest/lightest pull.
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                      • jamescell
                        IBEW local 498
                        • Aug 2004
                        • 367

                        #41
                        well, magaman and I just rigged one up, I mean extreme rigging! Any ways this concept has been proven! I'll let you guys know when our final design is done
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                        • splat15k
                          The Beast from the East

                          • Oct 2001
                          • 1227

                          #42
                          Originally posted by jamescell
                          well, magaman and I just rigged one up, I mean extreme rigging! Any ways this concept has been proven! I'll let you guys know when our final design is done
                          Excellent. I look forward to it. I'm curious though, will you try to fit the reg inside the grip frame?
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                          • undescriptive
                            Battered and Bruised
                            • Apr 2004
                            • 279

                            #43
                            and make sure we all get plenty of pics

                            and all the part numbers :P

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                            • splat15k
                              The Beast from the East

                              • Oct 2001
                              • 1227

                              #44
                              Through some internet research, I believe the ans ram is physically the shortest ram available. I was wondering if anybody had experience with this ram and if they could provide some measurements that would be great!
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                              • the electrician
                                Registered User
                                • Jan 2002
                                • 542

                                #45
                                did you guys do a search when you started looking for info on this?

                                it's been done many times by many people with good success.

                                I used an MPA-3 valve actuator (modified of course) for a ram and an smav-3 for the 3-way behind the trigger. it's a small tight set-up. the trigger wasn't as light as some of the others, but it was short and fast. out shoot the revvy fairly easy.

                                http://home.kc.rr.com/theelectrician...odsideview.jpg

                                http://home.kc.rr.com/theelectrician...magmodguts.jpg

                                http://home.kc.rr.com/theelectrician...modtrigger.jpg

                                worked pretty well. I imagine the valve could have been made to to have lighter actuation, but I skipped onto to making it an electro mag. that is covered in this thread:
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