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  • stevewar
    Mag Tinkererse
    • Sep 2007
    • 281

    #1

    AO'ers help revive AGD

    I'm just going to throw this out here because I love AGD; have owned and played with only 1 gun since 1993, and wouldn't trade my classic in for the world..

    We all want to see AGD thrive and continue with the innovation and quality that all "maggers" have grown to love and expect out of our equipment. Now I'm farily new to this board, but I know about Tom's retirement and have read the threads about AGDs financial struggles. It's a shame to watch such a great company who values their customers and provides the best customer service in the busness, along with top quality products, be devalued by garbage markers created for the sole purpose of being sold at Wal-mart.

    That said, AGD needs sales, and there is a way that all of us AO'ers can help. With the HUGE fan base, AGD needs to create an affiliate sales program so that WE can advertise for them. All those who are willing to learn how affiliate and internet marketing works for the purpose of helping AGD grow please chime in. Hopefully we can convince AGD to develop the program and grow.

    If anyone from AGD reads this post, I can help with developing the program and with web site development.

    please please please get in touch with me.

    -Steve Warshaw
  • Piranti
    Cold Blooded Lizard
    • Jun 2006
    • 486

    #2
    AGD has become a niche market for a niche set of players. They still have sales, but for the most part where Mainstream Paintball is going AGD is unwilling to go. Partly due to the Smart Parts crap years ago. AGD has become alot like AKA in that they have a very loyal following and their markers have high resale value. They do still sponsor Black Cat Scenario Productions.

    There has been a resurgence of Mags on fields lately it seems though. Here in socal we got near 30 people to attend a AO day all had a blast and most had at least 1 mag in addition to their 'other' markers.

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    • stevewar
      Mag Tinkererse
      • Sep 2007
      • 281

      #3
      Originally posted by Piranti
      AGD has become a niche market for a niche set of players. They still have sales, but for the most part where Mainstream Paintball is going AGD is unwilling to go. Partly due to the Smart Parts crap years ago. AGD has become alot like AKA in that they have a very loyal following and their markers have high resale value. They do still sponsor Black Cat Scenario Productions.

      There has been a resurgence of Mags on fields lately it seems though. Here in socal we got near 30 people to attend a AO day all had a blast and most had at least 1 mag in addition to their 'other' markers.
      I firmly belive there exists a healthy market for folks who want to buy high quality paintball markers, and AGD makes them. If we do our part to drive excitement for the products, you WILL see more entry level players showing up with mags. Don't under estimate the power of word of mouth ads.

      Now I understand that smart parts has tried to patent everything related to paintball, but that just means the innovation has to be fresh, and the products have to be put in front of the right people. I don't really care of AGD goes main stream, but I certainly want them to have enough cash flow to run a healthy, thriving business and continue to innovate and deliver new products.

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      • BigEvil
        www.BigEvilOnline.com

        • Feb 2005
        • 9333

        #4
        AO has probably been the main supporters of AGD and the automag platform since they fell out of the limelight. "WE" can only do so much.

        It is not within the laws of time and space for a company to thrive like the big boys when selling $500 mechanical paintball markers, while the competition sells $300 ones that can out perform it.

        However, AGD can still thrive in the niche market for as long as it chooses to. There are still things about AGD products that are far superior to just about any other. The fact that the company is run and supported by good people also makes it attractive to many players who loathe some of the other BS that goes on in the industry.

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        • TnDeathInc
          AKA's are my new thing
          • Apr 2007
          • 651

          #5
          Tom isnt retired....Tom WAITS....

          It makes me feel good to think so.

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          • questionful
            LNIB
            • Dec 2006
            • 1416

            #6
            If you guys really want to help AGD, go onto http://forum.specialopspaintball.com

            If we can convince all those tippy fans over to AGD, it will domino. Just go on there, get your marketing hats on, and convert convert convert!!!

            But it's double-edged. Part of the reason I like mags is because they're a niche.


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            • nathanjones008
              Magpride008
              • Nov 2006
              • 515

              #7
              its going to take alot of work! I am worn out on trying! I think somone should buy out AGD to make newer products. That is the companies best bet to rise.

              Unless they have a change of heart.

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              • questionful
                LNIB
                • Dec 2006
                • 1416

                #8
                Originally posted by nathanjones008
                I think somone should buy out AGD to make newer products.



                nathanjones008

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                • nathanjones008
                  Magpride008
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 515

                  #9
                  Originally posted by questionful



                  nathanjones008

                  Hey do not get mad at me. When the inventory runs out they are gone. I rather see them go trying rather than doing NoTHING!

                  Do what you gotta do to survive.

                  think about it.

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                  • nathanjones008
                    Magpride008
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 515

                    #10
                    umm

                    Now that i am thinking about it. Pushing agd hard core may be counter productive. If the sales boost for agd then they will go under quicker if they do not replenish stock. It appears they they do not have no intentions for replenishing anything. Considering the recent price spikes.

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                    • questionful
                      LNIB
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 1416

                      #11
                      What are you talking about they are still making stuff and will continue doing so.

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                      • nathanjones008
                        Magpride008
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 515

                        #12
                        Its my understanding that they have came to a hault or making things at a VERY slow rate. I am not sure if you have looked at the prices in airgun.com The (old prices) on a pro classic was 230.00 the prices of a mini mag was 240.00 the warp feed was 60-70 bucks depending on color. The emag is no longer in production. Now the proclassic mag and mini mag is 259.00 the warp feed is 99~106.00 I have been told buy many that the company is selling off OLD stock then closing the doors. Since the stock is low they are making as much $$ as possible before the end.

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                        • Papa_Smurf
                          E/Xmag ACE boards, PM me.
                          • Sep 2006
                          • 1531

                          #13
                          Why did you make two threads?

                          http://automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=220025

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                          • RogueFactor
                            Registered User
                            • Dec 2001
                            • 633

                            #14
                            Originally posted by nathanjones008
                            Hey do not get mad at me. When the inventory runs out they are gone. I rather see them go trying rather than doing NoTHING!

                            Do what you gotta do to survive.

                            think about it.
                            Hogwash.

                            AGD has been replenshing their inventory for at least the last year. ULE bodies, XValves, Level 10 kits, ULT's, Rails, Parts, etc etc. To say they are doing nothing is just plain ignorant.

                            I have thought about it. The Mag is the best mech out there. Electro-mags are just as good as any other e-markers in existence.

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                            • stevewar
                              Mag Tinkererse
                              • Sep 2007
                              • 281

                              #15
                              Originally posted by nathanjones008
                              its going to take alot of work! I am worn out on trying! I think somone should buy out AGD to make newer products. That is the companies best bet to rise.

                              Unless they have a change of heart.

                              I don't think you guys understand the concept of an affliate program. Think Amazon.com. Essentially AGD pays you a commission for sending people to them and making sales. It's marketing that only costs them money when they actually make a sale, and is the best way for a small company to get their name rolling.

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