AO'ers help revive AGD

[mstrdbz]

Think about it ,AGD used to one of the biggest(paintball) manufactuers in the country. And now they moved to a basement or a garage. Does this not make you guys a little bit nervous?

How many manufactures actually run out of a large faculity? A dozen maybe? And I'd wager that most of those only have large faculities to accomidate warehousing, because they don't actually produce the product, just assemble and ship.

Most of the niche markers probably do come from someones garage or basement, if you stop and think about it. I agree with lather that there just trying to keep cost down. A smart move for any business, no matter what the size. Instead of having to pay for a building they no longer need, they just pay for webhosting, like AKA.

Look at AKA, SP screwed them up. They basically put them out of business. ANyhow I checked there websight(no more than 6 months) I still see the viking.(which was hasnt made any new model in since 04) for 700.00(which was left over stock) Really expensive for going under, dont you think? I just checked the websight now and the vikings,are no longer availiable(sold) but all the accesssories are still at full priced not reduced. So it is wise of them to sell it for full price, to get as much $$ as possible. AKA If they are in business, they are selling off old stock and bearly hanging by a thread,

Do you have infomation that AKA is going out of business? Or are you basing your hypothesis on the fact that they haven't made a new marker in the last three years? To me it look like AKA was forced to become another niche company, being run out of someone's garage or basement. It is wise of them to sell their accessories for full price, because that's what their worth.

It is POSSIBLE that agd is heading in the same or SIMiLar(For the time being AGD is a lil better off) forbidden path.

It is also possible that since we don't see the financial records of AGD that they could be on the 'path of redemption'.

Makes me wonder.

I don't.

[stevewar]

YOU, SIR, ARE DISGUSTING. IT IS PEOPLE LIKE YOU THAT BRING AGD DOWN. HOW DARE YOU USE THE SAME AUTOMAG FOR 14 YEARS. OF COURSE AGD WONT MAKE ANY MONEY, BECAUSE PEOPLE LIKE YOU KEEP USING THE SAME GUN!
srsly now.

Well that's and interesting opinion. Being that I've replaced parts and internals, loaned the gun out to people who have purchased their own, smoked guys on the field and had them ask "dear God, what is that thing?". Trust me, I've made AGD plenty of money.

[stevewar]

I'm just glad this thread has got people thinking.


And to he** with smart parts

[st6212]

Well that's and interesting opinion. Being that I've replaced parts and internals, loaned the gun out to people who have purchased their own, smoked guys on the field and had them ask "dear God, what is that thing?". Trust me, I've made AGD plenty of money.

I think he was just being sarcastic :)

[TheTramp]

[stevewar]

I think he was just being sarcastic :)

Oh, I hope so. It can be so hard to tell in text sometimes

[warbeak2099]

Like I said, they are content to be complacent. They are not aggressive.

[stevewar]

Yeah no kidding. I mean you can look online and find guys who are making custom rails, frames, bodies, pneumatic parts, and all sorts of other add ons for the mag.

And I'm tired of people saying that the MAG is only for a niche market. Paintball IS a niche market. I promise you that if enough people beat the AGD drum people would listen. I know that when I take my mag out and my friends ask me "is that the same gun you've used for all of these years?" and I tell them yes, that they are amazed. Pass that on to a parent who is going to buy a marker for their kid and compare it to any of the POS markers they'll find at Wal-Mart that may last a season or two and they will see the value.

Think about the stupid Quaker State commercials. They show one car with another company's oil in the egnine and another car with Quaker State. The "other" car blows up first and that makes people want to buy Quaker State. OIL IS OIL! Can you imagine if we took a Shocker or an Angle and put it up against a mag in an endurance test? It would be like comparing a pinto to a toyota.


My point is that AGD dones't have to create anything new to drum up sales. If we are able to get the open source paintball group rolling, just imagine how huge a player AGD could become by supplying IP into that group. They could build xmags under the umbrella of open source IP protection and still keep the materials and manufacturing processes to themselves and we could buy a friggin XMAG again damnit!

[Dark Side]

Only if money could be made from the production of said Xmags. No one in their right mind will build a product that won't make them money(unless you have a few billion sitting around and feel generous).

[nathanjones008]

I don't.

Listen i said AKA is screwed up. They are basically out of business. The webight www.akalmp.com says they are prohibited from making markers. If they can not make markers then the are up the creek.I said that agd is doing a little better cause they still make mech markers, not(main stream electros). No one has to know how much $$ they make to see how they are doing. Tom k saod so himself they the comapny is in deep $$ problems. On top of that they moved in a basement of garage. They are no longer on the tourney scene. There is no longer avdertising. There is so many signs out there it is undeniable!

So the company is a niche market, that is hanging, PERPHaps( not for certain) on a thread.

[Muzikman]

Listen i said AKA is screwed up. There are basically out of business. The webight www.akalmp.com says they are prohibited from making markers. If they can not make markers then the are up the creek.I said that agd is doing a little better cause they still make mech markers, not(main stream electros). No one has to know how much $$ they make to see how they are doing. Tom k saod so himself they the comapny is in deep $$ problems. On top of that they moved in a basement of garage. They are no longer on the tourney scene. There is no longer avdertising. There is so many signs out there it is undeniable.

So the company is a niche market, that is hanging, PERPHaps( not for certain) on a thread.

Markers are not everything. There have been many sucessful companies that make nothing but accessories for other guns.

[rkjunior303]

Listen i said AKA is screwed up. They are basically out of business. The webight www.akalmp.com says they are prohibited from making markers. If they can not make markers then the are up the creek.I said that agd is doing a little better cause they still make mech markers, not(main stream electros). No one has to know how much $$ they make to see how they are doing. Tom k saod so himself they the comapny is in deep $$ problems. On top of that they moved in a basement of garage. They are no longer on the tourney scene. There is no longer avdertising. There is so many signs out there it is undeniable.

So the company is a niche market, that is hanging, PERPHaps( not for certain) on a thread.

AKA had a non-paintball business well before they had a paintball business. They are NOT out of business - just another comment by someone who has only PART of the information and they feel like they are an expert.

[nathanjones008]

Markers are not everything. There have been many sucessful companies that make nothing but accessories for other guns.

you have a point.

[Muzikman]

Pass that on to a parent who is going to buy a marker for their kid and compare it to any of the POS markers they'll find at Wal-Mart that may last a season or two and they will see the value.

You have to remember, the turn around time for new players is about a year these days. Cheap markers that will last a year is all your new player needs. It will outlast his interest in the sport in most cases.

[nathanjones008]

AKA had a non-paintball business well before they had a paintball business. They are NOT out of business - just another comment by someone who has only PART of the information and they feel like they are an expert.

ok expert. What is whole story? I would love to hear it, thanks. :)