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  • mustangii
    Born again
    • Jan 2005
    • 215

    #151
    I like it without the asa too.
    edm

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    • spiked_bad_monkey
      play 4 th game not th fame
      • Sep 2006
      • 123

      #152
      i'm diggin that unibody design, as soon as you get all the bugs worked out i'm gonna want one, as for the frame, i like the new design you made where you can put your own asa on the front but it still seems as though the thumb screw is a little too close to the back of the frame, maby i missed the post about it but do you plan on using a different type of screw?

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      • Rudz
        Registered User

        • Apr 2005
        • 5087

        #153
        i like the latest design great work joe
        BEO MAFIA
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        • snoopay700
          Serious About Men

          • Jan 2006
          • 3071

          #154
          Originally posted by spiked_bad_monkey
          i'm diggin that unibody design, as soon as you get all the bugs worked out i'm gonna want one, as for the frame, i like the new design you made where you can put your own asa on the front but it still seems as though the thumb screw is a little too close to the back of the frame, maby i missed the post about it but do you plan on using a different type of screw?
          Thats not a unibody design that's his own marker design.

          And yes, he plans on using another screw, it's countersunk so that should tell you, and all of logic's frames us a different screw.
          Il n'y a point de sots si incommodes que ceux qui ont de l'esprit.

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          • mpsd
            Crazy Brazilian P8Baller

            • Nov 2005
            • 2778

            #155
            Originally posted by snoopay700
            ...and all of logic's frames us a different screw.
            I've heard that before. But my UMF uses a standard screw:



            Anything wrong or any problem with that?

            By the way, Joe (Pneumagger) is the one who modded it for me. Nothing done at the screw hole though.

            Thanks.

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            • snoopay700
              Serious About Men

              • Jan 2006
              • 3071

              #156
              Originally posted by mpsd
              I've heard that before. But my UMF uses a standard screw:

              Anything wrong or any problem with that?

              By the way, Joe (Pneumagger) is the one who modded it for me. Nothing done at the screw hole though.

              Thanks.
              Well not saying you can't use the stock one, but usually you see those with another one that's flush with the frame for a cleaner look. At least the ones i've seen.
              Last edited by snoopay700; 10-31-2008, 06:55 PM.
              Il n'y a point de sots si incommodes que ceux qui ont de l'esprit.

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              • mpsd
                Crazy Brazilian P8Baller

                • Nov 2005
                • 2778

                #157
                Originally posted by snoopay700
                Well not saying you can't use the stock one, but usually you see those with another one that's flush with the frame for a cleaner look. At least the ones i've seen.
                Well, if it's just the looks, then I'm cool with that. Thanks!

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                • snoopay700
                  Serious About Men

                  • Jan 2006
                  • 3071

                  #158
                  Originally posted by mpsd
                  Well, if it's just the looks, then I'm cool with that. Thanks!
                  Yeah, i think it's the ones with the longer back end that i've seen with it, i dunno if i'm remembering wrong, but i could have sworn i saw most logics with a screw with a flat top head with an angled bottom of the head.
                  Il n'y a point de sots si incommodes que ceux qui ont de l'esprit.

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                  • Hilltop Customs
                    Registered User
                    • Aug 2007
                    • 1260

                    #159
                    Since theres all this talk about screws and whatnot, Pneumagger, how do you plan on machining that countersink for the rear frame screw? The grip will be in the way for machining with the frame inverted, and that has to be a flat surface for the screw to rest against.

                    I didnt even notice till people started to talk about screws and then I noticed this frame will sit back further compared to stock frames.

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                    • snoopay700
                      Serious About Men

                      • Jan 2006
                      • 3071

                      #160
                      Originally posted by Hilltop Customs
                      Since theres all this talk about screws and whatnot, Pneumagger, how do you plan on machining that countersink for the rear frame screw? The grip will be in the way for machining with the frame inverted, and that has to be a flat surface for the screw to rest against.

                      I didnt even notice till people started to talk about screws and then I noticed this frame will sit back further compared to stock frames.
                      I realized, but i forgot to see if there would be clearance to make the countersink, which is something i usually notice...
                      Il n'y a point de sots si incommodes que ceux qui ont de l'esprit.

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                      • Pneumagger
                        I like 'Mags.

                        • Jun 2006
                        • 3556

                        #161
                        Bore out the counter bore diameter from the top and then press a small diameter insert in.
                        A light tack weld in the top and a polish will hide those right up. Once anodized it will not be an issue.

                        If I cant find an arc welder to borrow from someone local, I may have to get one for my shop.

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                        • Hilltop Customs
                          Registered User
                          • Aug 2007
                          • 1260

                          #162
                          cool, I was thinking the same thing with overboring and press fit, but that anno/re-anno might cause some issues....acid getting trapped in between surfaces was my main fear.

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                          • mobsterboy
                            Mr.StealYoDallara

                            • Aug 2004
                            • 2371

                            #163
                            i want one. thats all i really have to say... except maybe saying it twice... I want one

                            RAWR
                            Dallara Den

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                            • spiked_bad_monkey
                              play 4 th game not th fame
                              • Sep 2006
                              • 123

                              #164
                              Originally posted by snoopay700
                              Thats not a unibody design that's his own marker design.

                              And yes, he plans on using another screw, it's countersunk so that should tell you, and all of logic's frames us a different screw.
                              ah, ok, thanks for clearing that up for me

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                              • p8ntbal4me
                                No more UTBs!
                                • Aug 2003
                                • 2560

                                #165
                                If I was to design a new frame,... I would want the following.

                                A) New grips that are simular to the WDP Angel. Where they use 2 top screws allowing for a gap to do custom work such as solenoids or rams.

                                B) Leave some extra material. If weight reduction is important,.. take it off the front or in the rail. Extra "meat" is always nice to have when you want to mill out for something that the frame could possibly be used for. The material I speak of is the space between the 2 screws on the WDP grips. This would allow for someone to make a DevilMag clone or an EP using a Cyber-ram without running into lack of material to make nice cuts.

                                C) Plan for electronics. Cut wire channels along the top of the rail and zig zag the cut patterns to keep the wires in the rail when the body is removed. Plan to thin out the channels along the edges where the wires could go up along side a body for eyes.

                                D) Plan for the LPR channel inside the rail. Majority of the channel can be cut,.. and not exposed up through the front so that people who do not want to use an LPR dont have to see the channel in the front of the frame. Those that wish to use it,... they only have to remove a very small amount of metal. (think along lines of the RT rails,.. how thin the material is at the bottom side of the front fore grip hole. You can drill it out in less than 5 seconds)

                                E) Use a set screw to hold the trigger rod to the trigger,.. and not a 'pressed in" trigger axle. Specifically,... how the EGO triggers are. The axle is very loose,.. but when the set screw is attached,.. the axle and trigger can not possibly fall out. This prevents having to drive a pin out, and damaging the anno on the gun.

                                F) A snatch grip. I havent used my Logic EM Ripper much,... but the snatch grip is nice. It wouldnt have to be machined into the frame,.. but having it is a welcome gift

                                G) No safety. I dont believe in a safety,... I think they set you up for a welcome accident waiting to happen. If its electric,.. turn it off. If its mechanical,... de-gas it. Safetys are more parts,... less usable space on the top of the frame for other parts, and more machining you have to add into the design.

                                H) Plan for the LPR mounted to the front of the ASA. We all know it has been said,..... might as well throw the thing on there for everyone else.

                                I) Machine and tap a hole into the ASA from the top inside of the frame/rail to allow for a STAB-FATTY (or the like) to be used to make a sleeper EP or Pneumag. The hole should allow for a 90 degree barb to be screwed into the top,.. and an air hose passage to the inside of the frame.

                                J) Plan to house a LPR inside the frame for a sleeper Pneumag.

                                I might have some more suggestions,... but this is as much as I can think of right now

                                ~ P8nt
                                _______________________
                                Jai "P8ntbal4me" Menard

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