New Frame - Preorder inquiry

[Hilltop Customs]

all good suggestions p8ntbal4me, I especially like the zig-zag wire channel...good thinking. I agree about the trigger axle too, makes changing out the trigger less dangerous(dangerous as in scratching your brand new $200+ anno). Only thing I dont agree with is not having a safety....for customization I can see why a safety is useless, but as a standard frame I'd always want a safety(especially if it was a sear stopping safety that could be used for any iteration of actuation)

[SSP-SheiK]

Ideally, you do not want the grip's "rail" to be longer than a classic rail. That way you get nice compatibility with some of the shorter mag bodies.

What is the max diameter of the bike grip and at what minimum distance from the rail does this diameter occur?
I'll make sure it would fit this rail.

well what i mean is if agd still carried the old long style vert asa's with flat top. i had one on my classic rail with intelli and it cleared it no problem. then again i dont know how long the trigger guard on your prototype is compared to the intelliframe's guard. i like my grip nice and tight to the frame but the rubber part of the grip overlaps the trigger guard and makes the surface area for gripping smaller.

heres a pic of what im talking about...



the rubber of the bike grip clears the guard...



but then again, i have yet to see the finnished product, so it may not even be a problem, plus it may just be MY opinion, other people may like their grip like that, idk...

[micromag-man]

i'd be happy to have the second-off for the Micromag with a 15 degree as well.

If this goes into production, I want one made for the Micro, without using a shim.

With PTP about to make their new body, i know that there would be interest in having these frames.

SO, i light of that, I'll take 10 of these frames IF AND ONLY IF, they are designed for a Micromag w/o a shim

[Pneumagger]

The whole concept of the frame is to integrate the rail into the frame.
The micromag concept integrates the rail into the body.
Since a mag only uses one sear and one rail, a micromag and this frame would appear to be mutually exclusive.

You're looking for a frame with just built in ASA

[micromag-man]

Well that takes the wind out of my sail

[splat15k]

So how are things coming along Pneumagger? Do any action items remain for us AOers?

[Hilltop Customs]

Since a mag only uses one sear and one rail, a micromag and this frame would appear to be mutually exclusive.

Thought someone already said it, but if you(anyone who wants it done) machined the bottom of a micromag body to mactch the exterior dimensions of a ULE body(for the area of the mate between body and frame), I cant see any reason why it wouldnt work. IMO it would be a lot of work, but it sure would be unique.

[micromag-man]

Much easier to make another frame than it would be to alter a micro

[Pneumagger]

Much easier to make another frame than it would be to alter a micro

Much cheaper to mill the micro if you have the ULE CAD onhand.
You could probably do the whole operation from one mount with a .250 ball end mill, 10-32 pilot drill and 10-32 tap.

[Dend78]

The whole concept of the frame is to integrate the rail into the frame.
The micromag concept integrates the rail into the body.
Since a mag only uses one sear and one rail, a micromag and this frame would appear to be mutually exclusive.

You're looking for a frame with just built in ASA

on that comment heres a crazy lil thought but it wouldnt be very ummm upgradable and i dont know much about milling but how bad would it be to mill it all as one? body, rail, frame and ASA? just add a valve, gas thru of your choice and barrel and a thumb screw to hold the vavle? call it hell spawn lol

[Hilltop Customs]

Much easier to make another frame than it would be to alter a micro

milling another frame without the rail in the frame would result in basically a standard UMF frame....well a UMF with an integrated ASA.

Dend78, that would have a bunch of impossible geometries(examples being the trigger slot and sear slot).

[snoopay700]

milling another frame without the rail in the frame would result in basically a standard UMF frame....well a UMF with an integrated ASA.

Dend78, that would have a bunch of impossible geometries(examples being the trigger slot and sear slot).

Damn, beat me to it. You could do it, but it would have holes in odd places and wouldn't look great.

[Dend78]

thats what i figured i was wondering how that would work out to get those slots in there, bu basically wouldnt those holes be covered by the valve? reason i say that how do you do mill it rail and frame together with those same cuts? like i said im a noob to a mill i can drill press holes and dremel it to death but the real stuff im not sure on

[snoopay700]

thats what i figured i was wondering how that would work out to get those slots in there, bu basically wouldnt those holes be covered by the valve? reason i say that how do you do mill it rail and frame together with those same cuts? like i said im a noob to a mill i can drill press holes and dremel it to death but the real stuff im not sure on

No, i mean it would have holes in the front of the trigger guard and the top of the body, there is no way to get the holes that would be in the rail and body without them being separate. You can combine the raile and gripframe because all you need is a place to mount the sear which is what the rail was for, and combining the rail and body you can make the cuts for that from the bottom of the body, but combining the frame and the body and the top of the body or bottom of the frame are in the way.

[senghing27]

I'm like extremely late to the party...

Joe, the frame looks fab.



I vote for EGO panels, they are oh so comfy.