New Frame - Preorder inquiry

[mpsd]

I vote on the 15* with mpa3 mount.

Yep. That's the one for me too. And, as it'll be an EP (in my iteration), the safety will be the board's on/off anyways.

[indeed]

I vote on the -5* with mpa3 mount. If majority want the 15* with mpa3 mount I'm still in.

[craltal]

Forgive me if this has already been stated, but I'd be most interested in a version for a micromag body with the integrated ASA since I was not able to use a logic frame because it would have interfered with a foregrip...

just saying...

[snoopay700]

Forgive me if this has already been stated, but I'd be most interested in a version for a micromag body with the integrated ASA since I was not able to use a logic frame because it would have interfered with a foregrip...

just saying...

That would require a specially made shim, as this design won't work on a micromag, but hey, they may be willing to produce a one of a kind one for you for the right price.

[splat15k]

Why must we vote on ASA options? If we go with a modular design, EVERYONE can be satisfied since they will install an ASA they already own (or they can purchase a new one of course). No custom modular ASAs necessary; use existing AGD-style mounting.

Removing the integrated ASA and adding either a single hole and a dovetail or two holes and a flat surface should reduce cost considerably.

Hilltop makes a great point about the aluminum thickness of the ASA. Eliminating the thickest feature of the frame means a smaller block of stock can be used... slashing costs again.

[Temo Vryce]

Personally I don't rely on the safety as it's not a guarantee. A good barrel Condom/Bag/Plug is more reliable than any safety. How many fields will let you walk around the staging area if you don't have a barrel blocking device but the safety is on? How many rental markers are your field still have a working safety? It's a nice to have, but not required in my opinion.

[mpsd]

Personally I don't rely on the safety as it's not a guarantee. A good barrel Condom/Bag/Plug is more reliable than any safety. How many fields will let you walk around the staging area if you don't have a barrel blocking device but the safety is on? How many rental markers are your field still have a working safety? It's a nice to have, but not required in my opinion.

And can you remind me where exactly is the safety on an Ego, DM or any other top of line marker? LOL Great point.

[Pneumagger]

Why must we vote on ASA options? If we go with a modular design, EVERYONE can be satisfied since they will install an ASA they already own (or they can purchase a new one of course). No custom modular ASAs necessary; use existing AGD-style mounting.

Removing the integrated ASA and adding either a single hole and a dovetail or two holes and a flat surface should reduce cost considerably.

Hilltop makes a great point about the aluminum thickness of the ASA. Eliminating the thickest feature of the frame means a smaller block of stock can be used... slashing costs again.

But then it won't look as sexy.

Truse me, all the options and prices will be available for vote.
If there are enough votes to support TWO preorders then we could do that.

[spwz99]

Removing the integrated ASA and adding either a single hole and a dovetail or two holes and a flat surface should reduce cost considerably.

Personally, the reason I like this so much is the integrated ASA. I mean without that feature it loses most of its appeal IMHO.

[snoopay700]

Personally, the reason I like this so much is the integrated ASA. I mean without that feature it loses most of its appeal IMHO.

Yeah, same here.

[splat15k]

Perhaps then what you folks are looking for is a rail with an integrated ASA. I thought the main appeal was eliminating the rail.

I agree though, it is sleek. My concern is finding a solution that can work for everyone's taste in ASA angles. Having two or more versions is costly. Sexier, yes, but far more expensive.

[craltal]

That would require a specially made shim, as this design won't work on a micromag, but hey, they may be willing to produce a one of a kind one for you for the right price.

actually i think it would require the removal of some metal from the top of the frame or a super long sear since you'd end up with a body with a built in rail and a frame with a built in rail...

I know it's be something special and don't really expect anything to come from my thoughts, but I thought that maybe I'd make a subliminal suggestion (especially with PTP talking about a new micromag design)

[behemoth]

Hai Guys!1

I keep tellin' ya - Fly to CLE.

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[snoopay700]

actually i think it would require the removal of some metal from the top of the frame or a super long sear since you'd end up with a body with a built in rail and a frame with a built in rail...

I know it's be something special and don't really expect anything to come from my thoughts, but I thought that maybe I'd make a subliminal suggestion (especially with PTP talking about a new micromag design)

Nah, if you had the shim i was takling about it should operate similar to a normal frame, but you may need to make the shelf higher...

[craltal]

Nah, if you had the shim i was takling about it should operate similar to a normal frame, but you may need to make the shelf higher...

d'oh. i'm thinking pure mech, not pneu or e-pneu...