New Frame - Preorder inquiry

[spiked_bad_monkey]

good idea, it does kinda remind me of an ion frame but thats not too bad, i'd really go for one if i could get a 10/15 degree angled back design on the foregrip, i dont know bout you guys but it's alot more comfortable for me and i'm not sure if it's feesable or not, but i also think it'd a little more comfy and lighter if you could "hour glass" the grip kinda like the dye ultralite on the newer dm series both front to back and side to side, just a thought, one more thing, the rear/thumb screw looks like it might be a little too close to the back of the grip for it to go all the way up and be flush with the rail/grip unless you plan on using a dirfferent type of screw, i dont know, just a few thoughts from me, do with them what you will

[Dirge]

Like the 15 degree. Would like to see it a little farther forward though.

[DanMan]

I know I'm probably getting annoying in here....but what about a dovetail rail protruding from the front? Allow customers to choose the angle/placement of the asa they like. Also this will cut down on machine time since the raw material of the frame doesnt have to be as wide as the asa, since it wouldnt have to be a single piece any more.

I guess it wouldnt have to be a dovetail..could just be like the classic mag rail.(I know I already mentioned it, but thought I would again)

It wouldnt be as pretty as a 1 piece setup like the models posted, but it leaves room for expandability. And it doesnt force the use of an asa type foregrip.

I think he is saying dont do an asa at all, let the customer provide one.

[sffudapparel]

I think he is saying dont do an asa at all, let the customer provide one.

I said that on the very first page , but no one said anything about it after that.

The asa would limit the choices of front grip, and could probably sleeper it if you wanted to pneu it anyway, instead of tapping the 15* asa. I like the idea of using any front grip, not only ones that are asa threaded.

[Hilltop Customs]

I think he is saying dont do an asa at all, let the customer provide one.

yea that....and if there is enough need for custom ones in the future, maybe look at satsifying that demand. I kindof went off on a tangent with the dovetail idea, because it would provide a sweet mount for anything right under the barrel. I would think you could do the standard classic mag rail type milling....and if anyone wants, easily cut a dovetail out of it.(not positive, dont remember the dimensions offhand) I'm not talking the entier "wings" and everything from the classic, just the center mount section.

anyway, just an idea, I'll quit harping on it lol

[Pneumagger]

So right now we have FOUR potential candidates. When we have some more I'll get quotes on them and we'll vote.
-5 degree with MPA3 mount grip
15 degree with MPA3 mount grip
-5 degree with standard grip
15 degree with standard grip

We've all got to decide on a SINGLE production frame and that's it. Costs will go up ALOT if we tell the shop to do special things to a certain number of frames.
It would be cheaper to have a non-threaded ASA forgrip threaded to fit into an ASA rather than a small run of frames for the half-dozen people who want nonASA foregrips.
It's a one setup job on a manual lathe. I could do it in my basement for people... Just sayin.
Also, if we use a dovetail type mounting system on the front we would have to come up with cu$tom ASA's to put on the dovetail.

I'll model up a version with an automag type adapter on the front. One problem I forsee is that a rail is ~1" wide and a frame is ~3/4"
In addition to that, I'm cosidering removing the safety alltogether. After further inpsection, it would not work and the position would have to be moved.
I don't have the budget for prototypes and I don't have AGD models/specs onhand to simulate with. Plus it's 4 extra parts and two extra holes,
I'm also going to change the grip panels pattern to EGO panels/grips. I've tapped a stock UMF for EGO grips before, so I know it will work here.

[behemoth]

No safety is unsafe, Joseph.

[DanMan]

I know that i would pay extra for the mp3a mount awesome idea!!!!!!!

Sleeper e-pneu here we come!!!

[DanMan]

It is kind of funny when you can build a whole AGD marker with the only AGD parts being the valve and sear!!

[Pneumagger]

No safety is unsafe, Joseph.

Since when were you the arbiter of safety?
Even more puzzling... Why would I be deemed safe.

[Rudz]

We need the safety

[Pneumagger]

We need the safety

[whine] Seriously? [/whine]

[behemoth]

Since when were you the arbiter of safety?
Even more puzzling... Why would I be deemed safe.

We are both probably the furthest from safe, ever.

And together, we wreck ****.

Lets hang out sometime soon? Beers? Guns? Cars? I'll race your car around?

[SCpoloRicker]

We are both probably the furthest from safe, ever.

And together, we wreck ****.

Lets hang out sometime soon? Beers? Guns? Cars? I'll race your car around?

Hai Guys!1

[snoopay700]

I vote on the 15* with mpa3 mount.