DYE out of business?

[RogueFactor]

and thats the point i was trying to get across. tho, tbh, he was making remarks about several paintball guns.
and thats the diffence between guys like the great gardner brothers and youngblood(and for the most part, bob long), compared to tom kaye. its something called CLASS! and yes, i've meet all these people. just my opinion, btw.

Maybe the only difference is situation. Ive heard Tom speak not-so-highly of the Gardner brothers at a semi-private invite only AGD tech conference to a few of us. Ive never seen him do this in an open public forum.

And to be fair, AGD has its fair share of hanger-ons too. The EMag does have its shortcomings, weight and battery were among them, especially before all the ULE stuff debuted. DYs tact towards a non-customer in the situation may have been a poor choice, but his opinions arent far off base.

[going_home]

So my friend said DYE is going out of business. i am out of the loop, is there truth to this?

Interesting.

First post and it very much looks like a troll.

Lets see what I can get started on AO.....

Wonder what forum a link to this thread will show up in.

It must be true its on the internets.

[bound for glory]

i don't know if the op is a troll. and i reaally did'nt mean to go off on dave youngblood.
that being said, the guy was acting like a classless dick. and i know the emag has its problems. but:
1) i don't have girly arms or stamina, so it being a "cinder block" does'nt bother me
2) if my "car battery" fails, i had a switch on the thing that makes it work again
3) with the level 10 mod.(witch dave surely must have heard of) my emag broke almost no paint
4) emags>dms(ANY) 'nuff said
and yeah, i'm very sure tom has his opinions on the jerkoff brothers and others. ditto thier markers. but to sit there, secure in your own crowd, with a bunch of "yes men", and make just plain idiotic statments about ANYONES gear in front of them, that is the definition of classless.
i'm for agd. right now, i'm magless due to a bad trade(my emag for a devilmag...don't ask). i have a very nice RL timmy and my boy shoots a shocker i got a great deal on. but if money allowed, my boy and i would be shooting mags again.

[Daze]

DYE owns a good chunk of the high-end softgoods market. The Matrix bottomed-out in 2008, and the Ego has started to in 2010. Unfortunately the GEO has beaten the hell out of the NT on many levels and will probably outlast it. I doubt that DYE is going anywhere but I expect they'll drop the DM, fix up the NT, and come out with something other than the PMR/SLG to appeal to the mid-low market like a strip-down NT or something. We might see a new DYE, but it'll be DYE.

Personally I expect the NT to be tweaked,and the DM to be discontinues and re-released after a year or so as the PM and at the same pricepoint as the old PM's were. I still expect the Rail to settle out to one model, and drop in price a bit. The SLG will stay about where it is.

It actually speaks towards Dye's stability that they have so many makes and models out right now, especially new ones. It almost seems like (especially with the Rail models) they're just seeing what will sell and what wont. Thats very dangerous unless you're very secure financially.

[RogueFactor]

Thats very dangerous unless you're very secure financially.

Or its necessary because youre not financially secure.

[Frizzle Fry]

Interesting.

First post and it very much looks like a troll.

Lets see what I can get started on AO.....

Wonder what forum a link to this thread will show up in.

It must be true its on the internets.

I noticed that as I typed... Methinks this could be something more than a troll (i.e. a competitor trying to drum up lack-of-support fears, DYE trying to drum up some mid-range marker business, a private seller trying to add value to a collection). I'm no conspiracy theorist but there are plenty of better places to start a "DYE is disappearing" fight than on AO; like any other paintball forum - TechPB and PBN come to mind. I dunno it just seems weird, and "drewho" hasn't come back to respond.

[luke]

http://www.haascnc.com/CNCMag/Ebook/v10i34/index.html#

[cockerpunk]

http://www.haascnc.com/CNCMag/Ebook/v10i34/index.html#

interesting article besides being an add for haas ... haha. i didn't know that dye still was in the USA, no wonder there stuff is so expensive. its hard to keep things in the USA, thats for sure.

i have to say though, having recently inspected and comapred an NT11 to a g6r, the NT11s machining was sub par and ratehr disappointing. the g6r on the other hand was pretty amazing.

[luke]

interesting article besides being an add for haas ... haha.

It's a HAAS customer magazine made by Haas.

[Coralis]

i had my emag and about the only thing he directly said to me was "hows that cinder block shooting today"? when i said "great", he said "miracles never cease". and then he acts like hes already forgotten i'm there and says to lacky #1, "i can't get past the weight of that thing"..."who would want to carry that around all day"?...and my favorite, "your carrying a cider block, that breaks half the paint that goes through it, you need a car battery to power it, all for $1200". the lacky laughs like a horse and some hangers on hot looking chick laughs and(i am not kidding) says, "if it ain't dye, it ain't paintball". really.

should of told him your DM blah blah was broken again and you had to get something reliable to shoot

[Frizzle Fry]

should of told him your DM blah blah was broken again and you had to get something reliable to shoot

I've rarely encountered issues with any Matrix I've owned. I'm not a fanboy, quite the opposite, but they were and are well made markers that (like most high-ends, other than maybe the Creed) tend to develop problems due to users errors rather than the manufacturers. DYE did a good job regulating 3rd party accessories when they bought the rights to the Matrix too... weeded out much of the low quality less than reliable stuff, at the expense of some great companies though.

[insixdays777]

I cant believe Dye still has its fanboys counting freaking blinking lights on their $1800.00 2011 flagship markers.

I mean my 2001 LCD Angel had an LCD Screen!

[Daze]

Or its necessary because youre not financially secure.

Also true. Given the popularity of their markers and soft gear, and the exorbitant prices charged, I assume they aren't broke. I also don't hear of them buying stupid things, or trying to sponsor the whole world of paintball, so I assume they aren't pissing money away either. It could all be going to blackjack and hookers though...

[d4m4don3]

http://www.haascnc.com/CNCMag/Ebook/v10i34/index.html#

He has since sent manufacturing over seas to a point. Team guns are still milled in the US.

[bound for glory]

oh, so he can still be bothered to mill something for his teams, but anyone else gets something from china for their money. and thats the meaning of the new world order...